Tractor First, Right?

The same argument could be applied to accidents where the driver was within HOS regulations, saying that the HOS regs are counter productive to safety by dictating that a driver is compelled to drive when his body feels tired.

 

An elog didn't make you drive tired. A bad decision makes you drive tired. That's where the driver needs to grow a set and two his company he needs to sit down for sleep. Or in the case of an owner operator he needs to not commit to loads that will make him run on those weird schedules that have him awake when the book days he should be sleeping and driving when his body days he needs to go to sleep.

 

If you're at the bar and dont know when to say when, you shouldnt drink. If a driver doesn't have the stones or intelligence to know when to say ENOUGH, he shouldnt be driving. Cowards should not be in this industry, and neither should the industry cater to cowards.

 

Or we could come up with hours of service regs that actually make sense and then enforce them.
"You can't take a 2 hour nap when your tired driver." Or you'll be over the magic 14hr rule and a danger to society if you want to get there tonight.
It goggles the mind.

 

I just asked that question in the elog post. So even if you stop to sleep your still "working"?

 

If so that's more messed up than putting coke in a single malt scotch....

 

A law written by politicians, pushed for by the ATA and payed for by the large team operated lowest common denominator carriers.
All in the name of "saftey".
Now e-logs are the battle cry to get everyone to comply.
Follow the $ and you'll find the answer.

 

There's nothing wrong with limiting hours of service. BUT LEAVE IT UP TO THE SMART DRIVERS TO WORK OUT WHEN THERE SAFE OR NOT.

Putting everyone under a blanket or wrapping them in a bubble won't help anyone learn or grow their knowledge.

 

That's my thought as well @old iron - give folks 15 hours a day to work, and let them decide which 15 out of 24 makes the most sense for their responsibilities and how they feel.

Sorry @HandLogger , we have strayed way off of the subject here.

 

That's normal in this section. straying....