Scenario 1: 3 hour part time gig 5 days a week. (non driving/no time cards). If working a local 2nd job (driving and short haul exemption), a time record for the driving job is all that's required to remain legal under HOS regs ? In addition, is the 10hour off duty time still required between jobs ?
Scnearo 2: 3 hour part time gig 5 days a week. (non driving/no time cards). 2nd job driving does not qualify under short haul exemption for mileage. 3 hours logged line 4 then 10 hours off duty will satisfy HOS to drive ?
HOS Compliance Scenarios
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Ricco1689, Apr 26, 2017.
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Legally, all time spent with "2nd jobs" count against your 70 hours work/drive per week just as if they were driving jobs. You're not required to have 10 hours off between jobs you are required to stop driving once you hit 14 hours of work/driving, including your 2nd job.
The simple way to think of it is all 2nd jobs are counted the same as driving jobs, whether that job is a toll booth operator in the middle of Kansas or driving a straight truck for Goodwill.W900AOwner, brian991219, MrEd and 2 others Thank this. -
Legally both jobs will count against your onduty, for the one that does not involve driving. That employer's onduty time is turned in to your trucking employer's logs with those hours driven and etc with the addition of that second employer's home town and name added to the driving employer.
Gah, I hate english written for trying to explain... if I confused anyone the problem is mine. Not yours.
Your ten hours kick in when you max out your 10 hours driving time. You cannot drive again until you have had either 10 hours off duty (At home or hotel etc) or 8 hours in a sleeper berth. It's possible to take a sleeper tractor as a commuter vehicle to your second job and sleep in it as a workaround.
People who have two jobs or three etc and one or two of them is driving under HOS, all jobs have to be so recorded.
Theoratically you can just log the one or two trucking jobs and let the rest go, but the law's intent is that you are working somewhere not involved in trucking and you will be tired when it comes time to drive. That's never good. -
Suffice to say if you have multiple jobs, and are involved in a serious accident with improper logging, you are open to severe penalties. Logging all time while being paid was done specifically to address that common scenario.
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So if I understand, even if a driver is running exempt under short haul provision, should he/she have another income, logging becomes mandatory and any paid time counts against the 70/14/11
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That is correct. It doesn't matter if he is a piano player in a wh*re house, if he gets paid, it gets logged.
By the way, he tells his mother about the piano job, not the trucking one. -
Sheeit, these days "mom" has an app for that, i'm sure. Besides, I'd rather tell her about the trucking one.
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But, If you had to drive 500 mi to start a new job, then when you got to the terminal they put in a truck and told you to drive your 10, That's ok.
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You better not.
Stay put a while. Get some rest. IF you crashed 10 minutes after leaving yard and it comes to light you drove a 500 mile commute, then you are finished. Not the company.trucker3205 and tscottme Thank this. -
Short-haul exemption exempts you from logging, not obeying the 11 hour drive clock or 14 hour clock. The 11 & 14 clock still are mandatory.brian991219 Thanks this.
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