Is there anyone who'll hire me with three accidents on my record that are a year old?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Jonathan Worsley, Apr 30, 2017.

  1. Jonathan Worsley

    Jonathan Worsley Light Load Member

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    I have three accidents on my record from a year ago. Here's how they happene: I worked on the Family Dollar account for Werner Enterprises (which I regret doing now, as it became apparent that I lacked the required skill). Anyway, they told me I had to park the truck (and trailer) where I live. Just one problem with that: I live in the small city of Easton, Pa. There's no parking suitable for a truck and trailer anywhere near my house. Down the street from my house, I found a whole block that was empty and I thought, "this might work." After parking, I get out of the truck to find out I've hit a baby tree, the branch now poking a small hole in the top of the trailer. This also took out a marker light. The next day, with the trailer repaired, I went to Irvington, NJ to unload at the first store, and this is where the second accident happened:
    I was backing up at the store. I got to a distance I felt was close enough and safe, but the manager says It's not. I told him I didn't think I could safely get it any closer, and they threaten me saying they were gonna complain to the company that I didn't know how to back up. Having no prior experience, being raised off of the phrase, "the customer's always right," and being afraid I'd loose my job if I couldn't get the truck any closer all combined into a horrible disaster. I backed up nervously, then I heard the sound of twisting metal, followed by a, "What're you doing?!" "You're bending the door!" That was the second accident.
    That night, after I was finished, I pulled into a truck stop and called my parents and sisters, which I did everyday when I was finished driving. I told them, "I'm quitting..." They asked why because it's very rare for me to quit a job. I said, "In less than 24 hours, I knocked down a poor, defenseless tree, poked a hole through a trailer, damaged a grocery store." "I'm not good at this," I say, "I should quit before someone gets hurt." My parents convinced me I simply had a bad day and somehow talked me out of quitting.
    Anyway, I called Driver Placement and told them what happened and said, "you need to get me off this account." "It's not safe for me of the store workers." "I'm afraid I might hurt someone." They said, they'd move me to the 48 States account as soon as my fleet manager releases me.
    A few weeks later, I found myself at a complicated Family Dollar setup. I tried for over an hour and still couldn't get it right, so I asked the store workers to talk me into this space. Towards the end, they say, "you just need to back up a couple more feet." "One, 1.5..." (The sound of glass shattering) I hit the outside light. The company didn't put this on my record because they felt sorry for me.
    That night I call Driver Placement again. I say, "I think it's in the company's best interest that you take me off this account. "I really don't thing I'm a good fit for it." They say, "Since you've been in an accident, you're on probation and when you're on probation, you can't switch accounts." I was stuck.
    Weeks later, I was at another Family Dollar, desperately trying not to lose my job. It was dark, the parking lot poorly lit as I carefully tried to maneuver the truck. I hit a tree branch. No damage to the truck or trailer, just a few scratches, but the tree branch was broken off. The trailer had an earlier dent in it from when a previous driver hit something, but I was still blamed for that damage. This was the accident that ruined my career.
    There's a car accident on my DMV record that I was not found at fault for. I'm not sure if this might also hinder my chances of future employment. I bought a cheap car from a dealer (I now know $1,000 is TOO cheap for a car) and it caught fire as I was driving it home.

    So, with three accidents on my record that are all over a year old. is there anyone who'll hire me, or should I consider taking welding classed?
     
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  3. HotH2o

    HotH2o Road Train Member

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    During the course of these accidents did you ever get out and look? If the answer is no you might want to start. If the answer is yes then trucking just might not be for you.
     
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  4. Fold_Moiler

    Fold_Moiler Road Train Member

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    Did all those at Werner go on your record?

    I mean I've scraped up a trailer a few times at my previous job but everyone did doing what we did. It was bound to happen. As long as you didn't cause property damage they didn't get mad.

    I would find out for sure what your record looks like before you go telling people about them.
     
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  5. DUNE-T

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    How old are you?
     
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  6. Radman

    Radman Road Train Member

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    Difference between incidents and accidents. Accidents on MVR meaning you wreck a car, got a ticket for hitting something etc. incidents happen within the company I.e. Fender bender, scratched a trailer, on private property etc. Yes you can get hired cause MVR = Insurance rates for companies. Having 0 accidents on the street is the big key to getting a job. If you get a accident on the street get ticketed then your screwed.

    Having incidents though will screw you out of good jobs so you can't be picky anymore.
     
  7. Rn8806

    Rn8806 Light Load Member

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    First accident why don't you park at werner terminal in allentown.easton is no place to park truck
     
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  8. Mike2633

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    I have to say at least you called Werner up and had the good sense to try and get your self off the account.
    I have to give you credit for that, I really do. You knew it wasn't working out and tried the best you could to get out of it.

    Uhh, normally I don't play this card, but if they weren't going to play ball the next question would have been, to start looking for other avenues of employment, being new though is tough and there's no real easy answer because no matter where you work the learning curve is going to be steep. I've only worked one other place besides the place that I'm at now and neither place I enjoyed the learning curve in the beginning very much.

    The thing that puzzles me though is you got through training and made it out on your own which means you must have had some clue as to what you were doing, and where I'm going with this is, your east coast there's pleanty of options out there, if I was you I would have looked at how much money I had in the bank and this is why (I know I know some people simply can't do this) but this is why it is important to have a few bucks in the bank. Also a really go idea not to have illegitimate kids and stuff like that etc etc.

    Where I am going with this is, if you say had $5K in the bank you could have like quit Werner before something bad happened. Went home ran over to the LTL terminals filled out applications or maybe ran over to Coke and Pepsi or some of the beer companies and started a little easier, and worked your way up. The LTL companies not all , but some really do train newer guys and there training is going to be a tid bit better then what you are going to get at some of the big truck load carriers. You wouldn't have to worry about where to park your truck or truck stops.

    You might have to go to the occasional Family Dollar with an LTL company, but not that it's easier, but after some time you'll find that driving a day cab with a single axle and a 45-48' trailer is a little more manageable. If you had to go to a Family Dollar in a 28' trailer and a single axle day cab you would be amazed at how you suddenly have more options.

    However some LTL stops are hard your backing in off the street with traffic whizzing by not always easy.

    I don't know, I've talked to people over the years who have tried trucking and it didn't quite work out for them. Problem is, you can't really have "bad days" I mean you can have a bad day where the route is stupid and paper work is screwed up, but when it comes to accidents and stuff you can't really just call it a "bad day" and be done with it. It doesn't work like that.

    My opinion go to welding school and I'm not saying that to be mean, trucking is one of those things where either you want it or you don't and a lot of people get into it thinking it's going to be easy or whatever and it eats them up and chews them out. A couple bad experiences like you had and that can get to a person.
     
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  9. Chinatown

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    First, you need to stop snitching on yourself. That stuff isn't on your MVR, so you're still hirable somewhere. Werner will probably document those minor incidents on your DAC report, so just own up to it and say "Yes, I bumped a couple of things, but no major damages."
    From now on quit reporting every little detail in your life. Don't list those things as accidents or you'll never find another job. Just say you left Werner due to a couple of minor backing incidents when asked.
    Try these:
    TransAm
    USA Truck
    Carolina Cargo
    Carolina Logistics
     
  10. x1Heavy

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    The tree is easily fixed. A couple dollars here and there done. The smashing of buildings and docks is something on you for not getting out and look. You did get out and look right? I hope you did. If you did you wont have had these smashed buildings.

    There is no such thing as a bad day. A bad day is a truly baaaad day. Ive had a couple of those. The kind in which it would have been way better to be staying in bed and never showing up anywhere for work that day. Much less driving a big truck. A couple times Ive quit companies when they do not listen to what I have to say to them over a problem that wont quit. Pat me on the head and say sorry. You are stuck. No sir, you need to find another driver, Im not stuck.

    I hope you have savings to fall back on to get through these times. Im not sure what your age is but if you are a young one These little problems can go away on your own. One by getting out and look as you carefully back. Better three times walking back there to look than to spend 3 minutes carefully smashing a dock. And you don't need to call home to mommy for every little scrape.

    One other thing. You picked up trailer with preexisting damage. Why did you not report the defects on the pretrip and have the shop do it. They can find the previous lout that damaged the trailer before you. But nope... you're it. You did it despite your protests. That pretrip prior to hooking on the trailer and discovery of the defect bashed by the other driver documented and turned in for repair would have saved you from being the fall guy.

    Im not your enemy. But your initial posts show problems which can be solved in the future by doing the things Im telling you to do. Trucking companies are not mommies that can wipe your boo boo and make your problems go away. They will add up the cost accumulating on your breaking buildings and say ok, enough you are fired.

    And you wonder why no one else will hire you for a while. Check your PSP Score, DAC and probably the CSA if there is one. Pay the 20 dollars or so to run a employment background check on yourself. You would understand who says what where and when. Then you can proceed to slowly make it right.

    Talking to your family? That's nice. But they cannot help you. Is there a trucker inside that family? I hope so. Otherwise it's a waste. You cannot talk problems in the trucking industry with people who know nothing about it. They will pat you on the head and think you are something special needing a state workshop program or something.

    It's not the end of the world. You have a whole lifetime of this. Then again....
     
  11. Jonathan Worsley

    Jonathan Worsley Light Load Member

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    Thanks for all the replies. They've been quite helpful. I probably should be sleeping since it's 04:30 and I have to wake up at 05:30 to go to work, but I read the average sleep cycle last for at least an hour and thirty minutes, so there's not much of a point in going back to sleep as I'd just end up having my sleep cycle interrupted by my alarm, which would only leave me feeling more tired. Anyway, now I have a few more questions / comments. Now, three of those incidents went on my record, one of them was taken off because they felt sorry for me.
    I'm currently 22 years old. I'll be 23 this summer.
    Why didn't I park at the Allentown terminal? My fleet manager made it sound like it was imperative that I parked near my house. Only when I told him what happened at Easton did he reconsider and give me directions to the Bath drop yard.
    As for why I didn't look for another job, the truck driving school, Roadmaster, told me I had to be with the company for a year to get tuition reimbursement, otherwise, I'd have to pay the full amount of the loan. This did indeed happen when lost my job and I've been getting calls from collections ever since. Working at a warehouse doesn't exactly give you enough money to get out of debt. Heck, I can't even afford to move out of my parents' house.
    Now, another question I have: So, when they asked me if I've had any accidents, I should say, "no," because they were incidents? I shouldn't list any accidents on my application because I don't have any? Wish I'd known that earlier. Werner told me three accidents was the reason why I was fired.
    As for the whole welding school thing, I only said it because there are a lot of welding schools in my area (and electrician's schools). To be honest, though, I'm happy doing ANYTHING that's not a warehouse job. I'm tired of waking up at 05:30, driving to a place I don't want to go and staying there for ten hours. talking products off a shelf, counting them, then puting them back in... for TEN hours. Then at the end of the week, I make... no where NEAR enough to fix the "check engine" light on my car. The next week, I get to do it all over again. It gets kinda old after a while...
     
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