"Galloping," or speed related "hopping".

Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by W900AOwner, Jun 27, 2017.

  1. wore out

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    I have seen the drum pilot be to small plenty on older trucks. Also the barrel but face as well as the rim itself will wear and cause issues.

    Last one I looked at hopped at 50 and 70. Right front drives with aluminum inner and outter wheels. The inner had the steel barrel nuts without the centering sleeves.

    I have done the jackstands and run it up a bit. Ain't as bad as it sounds. Sometimes when all else fails you have to get serious to find the problem.
     
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  3. bigguns

    bigguns Road Train Member

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    I've been waiting for a respected member to condone 30 mph on jack stands. I don't like to do it but sometimes you got to do what you got to do.
     
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    I've never done it (never needed to) but if I did have to, I think the biggest thing would be to not be an idiot about it. If its hopping a lot, slow down. No sudden acceleration or hard braking etc.
     
  5. Slowpoke KW

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    I've run several different trucks on jack stands over the years. Always chocked both steers, drives sitting on 4 stands, a competent operator at the wheel at all times and be gentle with it
    Also make sure there's nothing in front of it you don't want run over just in case

    We all do something dangerous all the time but we take precautions to minimize the risk after all driving is dangerous.
     
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  6. LoudOne

    LoudOne Medium Load Member

    I've done it with smaller vehicles. But I also had it anchored via an over head crane... It wasn't going no where. With a rig I would be VERY hesitant at doing it. Ive done it with flat boards over top for level and a jack sitting g next to the tyre. You can see enough with that turning it by hand. Covers both angles and is way safer lol

     
  7. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    Jeez? I only said 30, not 60. Bunch of babies. Do you want your truck fixed or not? Keep throwing parts at.
     
  8. Autohauler13

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    I don't think anyone is being a baby... There's just your way which works for you which is fine.... I just don't need my kid and family getting that phone call that a truck jumped off some jack stands.... Hey accidents can happen anytime but I'd rather stray to the side of caution. Thats just me
     
  9. BoxCarKidd

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    No braking at all. Neutral and coast to a stop.
     
  10. W900AOwner

    W900AOwner Heavy Load Member

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    Appreciate all the inputs... but i seemed to have solved it by a combination of things.

    First i should point out i have Budd wheels (1978), so they are self centered on the studs automatically.
    What i did was swapped out the drives from my other truck back to this one, which originally wore these tires to begin with. That "helped "... but the real culprit i believe was the ride height issue. I dropped the link down 2 sets of holes on the bracket on the axle housing and measured 9.5" from the lower frame flange to the weld seam on the housing, decreasing the height by 1.5". That was the biggest issue, as it threw the driveline angles out of kilter big time when it was too high. Now she rides nice and stopped galloping.

    To stick my nose into the debate on running on jackstands, i totally agree with the ones that do it, do it right, do it sensibly. How else are you gonna diagnose a hop/vibration anyways? I wasted $300.00 2 weeks ago on a bogus dyno test that found nothing except my checkbook. Falls into the category of " doing what ya gotta do" sometimes.

    No sensible man anyway, is gonna carelessly run it at 30 mph on jackstands, Any shop with any clue does it frequently, just have to use your head. Some don't even know what THAT means.
     
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  11. W900AOwner

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    You're talking about the wide side of a 2x4 i assume, correct? Now with the adjustments i made its about 3.5" between the frame and that stop...
     
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