08 ISX won't regen

Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by KGTrucking, Jun 29, 2017.

  1. KGTrucking

    KGTrucking Bobtail Member

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    Hey guys, I have an 08 isx that either isn't doing a regen or keeps telling me to do unnecessary regens. I got a light saying "regen required" so I parked and did an regen which went on for 2 hours. It then was cut off by a warning that said "regen required". So I cleaned my Dpf and doser and it was fine for 2 days. Then this morning I got a regen required light once again. So I started the regen and it once again got cut off by a light saying regen required. So basically everytime I do a parked regen, the engine stops it just to tell me a regen is required. My only guess is that the doser isn't throwing enough diesel or that the burner on the dpf has gone bad. Please give me any help y'all can because this is driving me crazy.
    2008 isx
    2010 peterbilt 386
    Egr system, doser, and Dpf have all been previously replaced.
    Thanks for any help
     
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  3. kutuzov

    kutuzov Light Load Member

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    I've got 2 trucks with Cummings engine with similar problems. One the filter needed to be replaced, the other one the injectors where bad.
     
  4. flutie79

    flutie79 Bobtail Member

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    the differential pressure sensor is one of the components that will tell the computer it needs a regen. The computer will sense that there is to much pressure going into the dpf as opposed to the outlet of the dpf. Makes sure the face of the dpf is cleaned and check the parameters of the dpf sensor. If that comes back clear then take the 7th injector out of the exhaust pipe just after the turbo and make sure it is clean. They love to get clogged up.
     
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  5. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    Is the high exhaust temperature warning light coming on? At this point you don't know if it is even dosing any fuel. You don't know if it is making any heat or not. Any smoke during the regen? Sorta need Insite connected to see what is happening.
     
  6. KGTrucking

    KGTrucking Bobtail Member

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    No, the high exhaust temp light isn't coming in, but I think that's because the dpf isn't getting hot enough. I'm going to have my doser checked out by my mechanic because I think it's not spitting enough fuel
     
  7. KGTrucking

    KGTrucking Bobtail Member

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    Do you think the differential pressure sensor might be bad? Because I just cleaned my Dpf over the weekend so I'm pretty sure it's not clogged up. And is that sensor on the burner or the filter itself?
     
  8. HopeOverMope

    HopeOverMope Road Train Member

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    Intake manifold air pressure sensor / about $50
    Delta-p differntial pressure sensor (intake manifold to venturi pipe) / about $150
    Clean those cross-over tubes between intake manifold and "venturi" pipe, i use carb n chocke cleaner

    Maybe look into changing your exhaust back pressure sensor, those have a 500k mile or so life span / about $125

    These sensors feed the data to your computer !!! They get carbon packed and dont read right...

    Theres another sensor too, on the dpf can itself, dpf differential pressure sensor its about $150

    Change all of these if you can at once to make sure your on a level playing field. All of these sensors can be changed with simple sockets and wrenches
     
  9. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    The exhaust has to be 525 degree or hotter in order to the system to allow fuel dosing to take place. Not seeing the high exhaust temp light is a for sure indication no fuel is getting dosed. The back pressure and engine load is created by the turbo to make that hotter exhaust temps up to 525 degrees. So this needs to be looked at next.
     
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  10. Professional Passenger

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    If you don't have a laptop with Insite, trying to solve this issue becomes way more difficult.
    If you don't have one, get yourself an inexpensive laptop with Windows 7. Used is fine, format the hard drive to wipe it clean. This is now a tool NOT a toy. Don't ever connect it to the internet! DO NOT risk putting a virus in your ECM.
    Go onto eBay and buy yourself a Chinese knockoff Inline 5 adapter, they're not expensive and they're invaluable to an O/O.
    If you have one, or have access to one, connect the ECM to Insite and post the regen history. This will show the results of the last 10 regens (or attempted). This info is the first step.
    The next step involves a good day of getting filthy. Buy at least a case of carb cleaner (not brake cleaner, the chemicals in brake cleaner mess up sensors!) and start removing the EGR system components (exhaust gas pressure sensor supply tube, crossover bellows pipe, EGR valve, Venturi mix pipe, intake manifold, etc. DO NOT clean inside the head, don't risk knocking a piece of carbon down into the cylinders! If your real adventurous, undo the EGR cooler inlet from the exhaust manifold and cover/plug the manifold from contamination and use EGR cooler cleaner to clean out the capillary tubes of the cooler while the crossover is off so it can escape safely) and clean the soot out of all of this. Replace; IMAP sensor, EGR Delta P sensor, Exhaust Gas Pressure sensor, DPF Differential Pressure sensor, and if your doser is more than 2-3yrs old replace it as well.

    An '08 truck most likely has some miles on it. Cleaning your DPF is good, but the DPF is NOT what causes the diesel to ignite, the DOC in front of the DPF has precious metals that ignite the diesel via reaction to burn the ash the DPF has collected out of it. The metals in the DOC have a lifespan and if it's never been changed, it's probably due.
    These after treatment systems have a lot of components and sensors that get soot packed and need to be maintained by regular cleaning and replacing. This should be done every 250k miles or so to keep the CEL's at bay...
    Good luck.
     
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  11. Heavyd

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    I don't know how any of these guys expect to fix anything without the proper tools. You are really hand cuffed without it.
     
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