Is it a regular occurrence in the oil field for an employer to ask if you're "comfortable" fibbing on your application to meet insurance experience requirements, and also offer to assist you on the application once you show up to orientation to make sure it's done right? Or is that a red flag? Probably a stupid question but I know things are done "differently" in the oil field from what I'm understanding.
Assistance in fibbing?
Discussion in 'Oilfield Trucking Forum' started by TheyCallMeDave, Aug 12, 2017.
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From what I've seen it's not uncommon.
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That's sort of the impression I've gotten since I started researching oil field practices. What would be the possible repercussions for doing such a thing?
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Little to none. The big reason it's done is, say you're getting hired by Acme. They need to look good for big companies like Shell and Chevron. So they say that they have all these prequalifications that drivers pass. "We only hire the best of the best our safety dept. is on the job" and so on. It's all a bunch of bs. It has to be done to keep contracts. But they need drivers so like lose leaf logs.... it looks good on paper.
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That certainly makes sense. Thanks for the insight. Do you have any opinion on running a pneumatic vs a sandbox (no working directly for sandbox) as a new driver in the oil field. I have an offer for both, similar equipment etc but on comparable mileage, the pneumatic pays 30-40 bucks more per load, but from the videos I've been watching, I'm not sure the extra 30-40 is worth all the potential headaches I've read about that can come with pulling a pneumatic.
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No I can't help much there. I've never pulled either one. I know a few guys that pull pneumatic but I've never talked to them about pros and cons. I'd go with the one that would pay more at the end of the week.
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If you get experience running pneumatic if oil field slows you could run other pneumatic freight, it equals experience. If you do sand box it doesn't really count as say flat bed experience.
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I run a pneumatic currently, rate is paying more then running my hopper, milk, or flat.
Downside, long as a a refer, noisy when vibrators run ( which is the hole offload time), to many hatches to open, and hoses. Besides that nothing wrong with pneumatic.TheyCallMeDave Thanks this. -
I don't know anything about pay but if I was going to haul sand I'd definitely do Sandbox. Unlock the pins and a forklift picks the box up and gives you an empty. I heard average turn around time is 8 minutes. Vs sandcan you're dragging hoses (which sometimes go bang when you're offloading) smacking the side of the trailer with a mallet and it takes much longer to get back on the road.TheyCallMeDave Thanks this.
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Assisting with the DOT app to make sure it's filled out properly is a common practice as all I's must be dotted and T's crossed.
Asking you to lie on your app to pass their insurance requirements is not the norm. This shows that whatever company you are applying with is not getting drivers in the door and they must lie to their insurance provider to get you on board.
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