Carrying firearms in a truck

ive been packin heat concealed w/o a CCP for 3 years now and as long as you dont give them any reason to search your fine. I dont drive a big car but in my 4 wheeler I dont worry a bit.

 

Considering all the BS in obtaining a permit in NYC, I've always felt that if I truely felt I needed a side arm, I'd just go black-market. It works for all the other hoodlums in NYC.

I even talked to a guy I used to work with who used to be NYPD and he said,

"Officer! I am SOOO glad I bumped into you! I was just on my way to the precinct! I just happend to find this 38 next to the dumpster behind my house and I was on my way to turn it in. After all I didn't want some kids to find it and hurt themselves."

He said for all the bluster, if you play it really cool they really can't hold you on any charges. You'll DEFINATELY lose the piece (and obviously it cannot be registered to you) but other than parking your but in the precinct for a few hours while they file the paperwork, there's really nothing they can do to you with that excuse.

 

You have a right to your opinion. I do not carry a gun in a truck and don't own a handgun. My .22 rifle has been broke for years.
NOW! the "flack" you were seeking. If there were no handgun ownership allowed in the U.S. at all there would be handguns here and people would get killed. Criminals will own handguns. If all handguns could be done away with and one person wanted to kill another, or more, that person would find a way. There were no handguns when Cain killed Able.
Put yourself in the middle of a circle and look at the whole picture. Look objectively at other views. You have picked handguns as a cause. WHY? If all handguns were removed people would saw off shotguns or just use longer guns under a coat.
Even though individuals owning guns was a major factor in the winning of the American Revolution there were factions trying to take guns away from the citizens.
When Louisiana and Texas was considering handgun permits there were many that said we would have bloodshed in the streets. Look at the records. This simply has not happened. I challenge anyone to find statistics proving otherwise.
There are many, many, many, people that own a handgun and have never pointed it at anyone and certainly have never killed anyone.
In a house a handgun is easier to keep close and accessable for protection. It is hard to put a rifle or shotgun in a nightstand or under a pillow. Of course you could always ask an intruder to wait until you get to the closet.
I drive a truck over the road and live in the middle of the woods. When I am gone my wife has a .380 for protection. She is trained on how to use a handgun, is an accurate shot, and knows what to do if she fears there is an intruder. You would be hard pressed to find a more kind, considerate, and loving person. It is not in her to hurt a fly. However, she knows what may happen if an intruder breaks into our house. She could be raped, mangled, killed, all of the above, or something bad could happen to our daughter or grandson. Would she kill if an intruder broke into our house or her bedroom? In a half a heartbeat.
Would I be alright with this? I would wonder why she wasted a 1/4 of a heartbeat.
I am against our government trying to take our gun rights away. Yesterday assualt rifles, today handguns, tomorrow all guns. We do not need assualt rifles but there has to be a stopping point. I can assure you that there are those that will continue to try to disarm the American Citizen.
We are a free people only because we have the belief. Please do not think for a second that our democracy is not fragile and must be supported and upheld every day. We could slip just that easy. A patriot act here, handgun laws there, court decisions, the wrong person taking power. I know it could never happen. That is why the Roman Empire is alive and strong today---not!.
You have your belief and I respect that but I do NOT believe for a second that handguns are just for killing, or for killing at all. I think they have a necessary purpose. I feel secure that my wife owns a handgun and does not sleep with a rifle under her pillow. I am glad that our constitutional right to bear arms is not just for hunting but a "right" to bear arms.

 

I am not trying to be smart just blunt but I am not related to you or being paid to do your homework. I am also not a lawyer. I read the law, was satisfied that it was valid, committed this to memory, and that was that. I do not have to carry the written law around to prove anything. If any that read what I have written believe that it has merrit, if they need to, or want to, they can check farther into it, It is as simple as that.
I told you the law and I guess you are not familiar with the fact that a federal law superceeds a state law. You could read the constitution to check this out.
There were drug arests in Ca. concerning medical marajuana. Federal law said it was illigal, Ca. had laws supporting it, the federal government made "drug" raids and arrested people.
I cited the access route section in the Atlas and the reason it is there. How many drivers even know about this? The federal government has control of "federal" roads or interstates. The states are even paid when their state police patrol a federal interstate.
You do the homework if you are interested. If you do you can post your findings, and the written law, on here and be hero for a day.
If there is someone that wishes to provide this individual with the written law since his PC must not be equipped to search, feel free to do so.
I was clear in my posting and reasoning. If you are, "sitting right in the middle of the federal highway you're still subject to state law" is correct. Laws that are reserved by the states, that are NOT covered under federal law. Thus, a state agreed right of engress and egress from and to the Federal Interstate system. It is specifically for the interstate system. Find and post, if you wish, a "fedreal law" prohibiting guns in an 18 wheeler. You will not find one unless this is very recent. Since there is no law against the carrying of a legal weapon on the interstate system a person is subjected to state laws in their jurisdiction which is everything outside of the states access routing.

One person posted of carrying guns and mentioned a sawed off shotgun and even crossing borders. I hope he was meaning state borders. There are federal laws against sawed off shot guns of a certain length. Seems I read 28". If this person crossed into canada or Mexico he could still be in jail if caught.

UPDATE: read this if you like;
The Firearm Owners' Protection Act (FOPA), Pub. L. No. 99-308, 100 Stat. 449 (May 19, 1986), codified at 18 U.S.C. § 921 et seq., is a United States federal law that revised many statutes in the Gun Control Act of 1968.

 

Your four wheeler isn't subject to Federal Law, Commercial Vehicles are.

 

To ALL: it is NOT against any federal law to carry a legal gun in a commercial vehicle. Where do people come up with this?
Again, ***ALL*** 50 states have laws concerning guns in a vehicle. As this person stated there are---FEDERAL LAWS protecting anyone traveling. Unless I am mistaken if you are in a "big truck" you are traveling.


The Firearm Owners' Protection Act (FOPA), Pub. L. No. 99-308, 100 Stat.The Firearm Owners' Protection Act (FOPA), Pub. L. No. 99-308, 100 Stat. 449 (May 19, 1986), codified at 18 U.S.C. § 921 et seq., is a United States federal law that revised many statutes in the Gun Control Act of 1968. 449 (May 19, 1986), codified at 18 U.S.C. § 921 et seq., is a United States federal law that revised many statutes in the Gun Control Act of 1968.

 

Some states recognize permits from other states but some do not.

NOTE:
The Firearm Owners' Protection Act (FOPA), Pub. L. No. 99-308, 100 Stat. 449 (May 19, 1986), codified at 18 U.S.C. § 921 et seq., is a United States federal law that revised many statutes in the Gun Control Act of 1968.

 

You are right. I am trying to post this as many times asI can so all can see. I may educate someone or at least increase my number of posts

The Firearm Owners' Protection Act (FOPA), Pub. L. No. 99-308, 100 Stat. 449 (May 19, 1986), codified at 18 U.S.C. § 921 et seq., is a United States federal law that revised many statutes in the Gun Control Act of 1968.

 

The Firearm Owners' Protection Act (FOPA), Pub. L. No. 99-308, 100 Stat. 449 (May 19, 1986), codified at 18 U.S.C. § 921 et seq., is a United States federal law that revised many statutes in the Gun Control Act of 1968.

 

And here it comes...

The Second Amendment has absolutely nothing to do with hunting. Nothing.

Really? Not for recreational purposes or competition or collecting? I own several and none have ever killed anyone.

Then you don't get out much. I took a deer with a .357 years ago and know many that handgun hunt.

That flake would have found some other way to pull off what he did. The other side of that coin is that, had someone else been armed, he wouldn't have done the damage he did. Oh, and the cops that are the only ones to have guns... do you mean the ones hiding behind their cars while this clown was gunning down a Holocaust survivor while he protected others?

Hitler thought that only the police and military should have guns. How did that turn out?

That's partly due to the fact that there are a lot of cops out there that have been trigger-happy over the years and there is a certain liability to consider.

And who is going to protect me when I'm away from my private land, since you have decided that I have no right to defend myself?

And melting it down would have been a travesty. You would have destroyed history and, even worse, an heirloom. I'm sure he would have been proud of you for that. You made the right decision by giving it to someone that will preserve it and honor it.

Not offended, and I would use my gun to defend your right to state those thoughts.