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CSA and inspections

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by jimjam38, Oct 2, 2017.

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  1. Oct 2, 2017 #1
    jimjam38

    jimjam38 Medium Load Member

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    Ok here is the scenario: driver gets a level I II III (doesn't matter what level) and passes. The dot officer conducting the inspection initiated said inspection because driver was driving 5 mph over posted limit but doesn't issue a ticket for speeding. Inspection report says no faults found on inspection but does mention the 5 over and specifies no citation issued. Now, when this inspection gets entered into the national database, does it show up as a clean or failed inspection in regards to affecting a company's CSA score?
     
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  3. Oct 2, 2017 #2
    kemosabi49

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    There are no CSA points for 1 to 5 over.
     
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  4. Oct 2, 2017 #3
    jimjam38

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    I figured you will get a ticket if you are wayyyyy over or take an attitude. I posed this because the other day I crested a hill in a 45. Didn't get enough brake on and dot got me for 5 over. He also have me a level III which I passed. No ticket he just told me to drive safe. My company told me it would negatively affect mine and their CSA score. It didn't sound right that's why I thought I would ask.
     
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  5. Oct 2, 2017 #4
    shogun

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    If it's listed on the inspection form under the violations, it counts even as a warning. It looks like a violation of 392.2 SLL1 general speeding and counts as 1 point, which is multiplied time 3 for the first 6 months. So your company got 3 points, which is minuscule. I wouldn't worry about it, sounds like DOT was being a jerk and just stopping trucks for any little reason.
     
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  7. Oct 2, 2017 #5
    HopeOverMope

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    CSA NEEDS A REFORM!

    But in your particular case driver, I think CSA points are geared more for "equipment violations"... so since speeding is a moving violation I think that would translate more into the MVR, but if no ticket was issued then your mvr should be fine. The MVR system is not near as flawed as CSA
     
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  8. Oct 2, 2017 #6
    6wheeler

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    There goes the company's insurance rates going up.
     
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  9. Oct 2, 2017 #7
    MACK E-6

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    I love how points are levied just for the inspections alone, even if there are violations found. :mad::rolleyes:
     
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  10. Oct 4, 2017 #8
    Scalemaster

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    I did not know that there were ANY CSA points applied if there are NO violations!

    CSA Points are only applied for violations listed on DOT inspections, and some violations have NO CSA points at all.
     
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  11. Oct 4, 2017 #9
    HopeOverMope

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    Don't forget warnings are recorded too and are given CSA points

    CSA NEEDS A REFORM !
     
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  12. Oct 4, 2017 #10
    Scalemaster

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    If there are no violations listed on the DOT inspection - "no defects found" - there is no warning or CSA penalty.

    A violation is still a violation even if it results in a warning.
     
    Scalemaster, Oct 4, 2017
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