This is why ELD's are going into effect.

Discussion in 'Trucking Accidents' started by boneebone, Oct 19, 2017.

  1. Ranger309

    Ranger309 Light Load Member

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    Might help save lives if bus riders had to wear seat belts. Unless I am mistaken, they do not.

    Yeah, the bus driver looks like he wasn't paying enough attention to the road.
     
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  3. Ranger309

    Ranger309 Light Load Member

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    Lots of highways are zoned for 65 MPH in CA. Some highways are zoned for 70 MPH. As for non-commercial vehicles pulling trailers, they seem to go the same speed as all the cars do in CA.

    Bus drivers can drive at the speed limit for cars, not trucks (and I dont mean pickup trucks) in
    Kookistan. So if this was a 65 MPH zone, the bus driver was going 11 MPH faster then legal.
     
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  4. STexan

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    Well. Okay. Then how I interpret this is that truck driver community needs to drop the tag line "professional" in front of their occupation title since they are not to be held to a higher standard then any other motorist?
     
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  5. Bean Jr.

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    Out there it is 70.

    As far as being Kookistan, can you believe that Reagan was governor there, we recalled 3 supreme court justices in the 1980s because they wouldnt uphold the death penalty, we had 4 straight terms of republican governor and that The election for the third term, Pete Wilson beat Dianne Feinstein? How the mighty have fallen!
     
  6. bigguns

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    I went to Google for a definition. As I understand that definition, Cali will ask that the driver be extradited to Cali. Georgia will be extraditing him. I.e. they will be allowing him to be sent to Cali. for prosecution. I may be the one who had it backarseward. Either way he is screwed but he should have others with him be charged for stupidity.
     
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  7. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    We are all (supposed to be) equal under the law.
     
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  8. W9onTime

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    What the cops say to the press could be very different then what comes out under oath in court , the drivers video interview with the press is also very different from the cops account , why not believe him ?
     
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  9. STexan

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    Last I checked, having a CDL and driving a CMV imposes all sorts of different thresholds and skills and knowledge and operational requirements that don't apply to normal motorists.

    I assumed this is part of the reason why some here demand to be called "professional drivers", regardless.
     
  10. Pedigreed Bulldog

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    There are no stiffer penalties for legal professionals...lawyers, judges, cops, etc...who break the law. These are folks who have been trained and educated in the law, and are sworn to uphold it...and yet they are not held to any higher standard. Why? Because we are all (supposed to be) equal under the law. Not even the politicians and bureaucrats who write the laws are held to a higher standard...in most cases, they exempt themselves.

    So why should the standards be different for truck drivers vs ordinary motorists? Speed limits are the same, and everybody ought to know what those are whether they drive commercially or not. Same goes for every other "rule of the road". They are what they are, and EVERY motorist ought to be held accountable for what they do behind the wheel.

    Just because you drive a truck doesn't mean you have given up your rights as a citizen.
     
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  11. Brandt

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    Every truck driver knows about the HOS we are held to a higher standard. Seems simple to me, drivers just don't seem to understand how important the HOS are. You will when you drive so tired and sleep and wake up an people are killed because some of the choices you made are not correct.

    Remember the Tracy Morgan accident ?that Walmart driver also thought he could drive long hours without sleeping. It's more then just a simple log book violation. I have a question for anyone who say is only a simple log book violation. If your family member or friend got killed, and you found out the driver was over HOS. Would you say that's ok, I understand ?

    Plus we have HOS to stop this from happening but when a driver refuses to stop and go over the HOS, this can happen. People talk about the law and how the bus driver did not stop. That's true, but I was told the law is not like this accident is 100% a single persons fault. It never is, in eyes of the laws. It's just like if a drive is parked on the shoulder of the road for a nap and a drunk driver run into back of trailer. The truck driver is partially responsible for the accident. Because the shoulder is only for emergency parking only.
     
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