15 years of safe professional driving gone...over 1 LIE

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Birddog316, Nov 2, 2017.

  1. swaggerjacker

    swaggerjacker Medium Load Member

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    According to your definition, the average person should never drive a CMV. Stressful situations abound.
     
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  3. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    So I suppose because the police force has a couple bad apples we should just assume ALL law enforcement officers are crooked? I guess all truckers are scum too because I saw one toss his piss jug and #### bag out the window of his truck. Give your head a shake man.
     
  4. Alaska76

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  5. Birddog316

    Birddog316 Bobtail Member

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    exactly...and nothing can be done...i paid the fine so thats apparent;y the end of it...
     
  6. Birddog316

    Birddog316 Bobtail Member

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    I was friendly and calm even past the point when i got angry...i didn't say anything but was livid inside...i mean i had thoughts to be really scared of at that moment...i understand exactly how black people feel now about law enforcment..
     
  7. boredsocial

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    A few bad apples make a lot of judgement calls in a day dude. Police misconduct is really widespread at this point. And it's widespread because it is tolerated. The largest part of that tolerance comes from our giving LEO's the benefit of the doubt.

    I don't have to agree with this drivers choices to find myself wondering if the cops who pulled him over are morally different than the guys from Goodfellas. At least when they robbed your truck it was covered by insurance and you still got to keep driving a truck for a living.

    My big question here is why you're all assuming that these cops were in the right to camp a spot where the letter of the law and the spirit of the law were such radically different things. A spot where they might catch someone making a reasonable mistake rather than someone aggressively breaking the law as the statute was intended?

    What are the ethics for writing a ticket that you know will have a crushing impact on another human being for an action that was nowhere near as bad as the ticket you are writing? That's ok? I guess we just have different ideas about what 'conservative', 'christian', 'right', and 'wrong' mean.

    We have gotten to a point where cops doing something punitive and arbitrary to raise money is so standard that we don't even bother mentioning it.
     
  8. ZVar

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    So you were breaking the law by driving in excess of the speed limit. Then you get out of the truck with a large dog with you have to know that is going to be seen as a very aggressive move on your part.
    Then not getting a lawyer if the ticket was actualy as you stated. I have doubts about that.
    I mean come on, other than talking about smoming a joint is there anything more you could have done wrong?
     
  9. boredsocial

    boredsocial Road Train Member

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    That's not what the OP said. He said he was going max 57 MPH and that he got a ticket written for going 70 when his truck is governed at 65. The officer has already told at least one lie and you still want to figure out how to blame the victim.

    Or the OP could be lying about everything. That's super possible too. But I'm not going to rule out his story because the people who disagree with him are cops and they would NEVER EVER LIE.

    EDIT: Obviously OP is responsible for mishandling the police, not lawyering up, not responding to this as aggressively as possible the day after it happened, etc etc. I'm not trying take away the personal responsibility for the outcome he has as an individual. He's being punished for that. I think much too severely.
     
  10. AModelCat

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    First off, I never stated I agreed with anything the officers or the OP said/did. You are just spouting off about how all cops are ########. I personally know a few officers and they are very upstanding individuals and almost every interaction I've ever had with an officer has been positive. Sure I've been stopped by an officer having a bad day but they still did their job properly. Maybe its your negative attitude that lead you to all these negative experiences?
     
  11. boredsocial

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    I've only had one or two out of maybe 5-6 total encounters. I've never been confrontational with cops lol. In case you can't tell they scare the ever living #### out of me. That's mostly because I know exactly what they can do to me without any repercussions at all.

    And I've used numbers like 5% in this and other threads for what I think the number of actual bad cops is. The problem isn't the number of them, the problem is that the ones that exist are tolerated and persist for years doing terrible stuff to people on a daily basis. It really does remind me strongly of the Catholic church and sex offenders.

    Do any of you know how hard it is to get fired as a cop? It's completely insane. It's stupid to have that much job security for anyone, so naturally the people we give it to are the people who teach our kids and the people who deploy state sanctioned force. Basically the opposite of what it should be lol.
     
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