ELDS Rate increase

I wasn't talking about you or the guys that run like you do. There are lots of folks on here that only want to work a few hours a day. To those folks, the ELD makes no difference. Good for them.

I'm just tryin to get it out there that not all parts of this industry run in such a way that the dang electronic box with zero flexibility will allow to be productive.

This ELD debate comes up over and over and it always ends the same. Those who have schedules that fit into the "legal" window just can't understand why those that have schedules that are a little odd can't just lay down with their tail between their legs and accept these things.

From the sound of things, you're running quite a bit harder tryin to beat that countdown timer every day than you would've on paper. I just wish everyone could see that. It's just gonna be a race all day every day for most folks. How in the world is that supposed to be safer?

 

The only reason that we would see a rate increase by a shortage of trucks is if we lost ten percent of the drivers in one week and there was no recruiting going on for the next ten weeks.

Outside of that, we won't see elds affecting anything except those who think that they have to run hard to make a buck and will leave or cry.

Those who think this will some how put a dent in capacity are clueless to how much capacity there is in this industry and how much capacity we would need to lose to get any thing changed for the positive.

We are so saturated with capacity that I see rates below 50 cents a mile for TL loads.

If we change two things, just two, then we would see rates rise due to limits on capacity.

One is get rid of this crackerjack licensing system and move towards something tangleble and useful. Take the tests and make them harder.

The other is get rid of these marginal carriers by means testing not just at the application but also a few times in the first two years. The same goes for brokers, they need to be held accountable 100% for the loads that are delivered by a carrier or owner.

 

There’s already a shortage. It’s only going to get worse. And you have to take in account for how many companies are out there that are on paper logs. Stand by and watch

 

There's no way in hell this is safer. I can't drive for another 6 hours right now, but I'm WIDE awake, and could do so easily.

Days like today are when it's just punishment.

Instead of getting down the highway, arriving at the receiver at say 2300 or midnight, I get to start at 2200, and drive through what's been preached as the worst time to drive.

I wonder what the wet ##### solution to that is?

Dude, has anyone seen my country? I know I left it here someplace.

 

There is no real shortage, look at the rates. If there was a real shortage, the lowest rates I should be seeing would be above $2 a mile.

in the real world, paper logs or eld ... it doesn't matter at all.

I've been hearing this for years, nothing has changed there is always a crisis in trucking.

 

Just because you run elogs doesnt mean you are running legal. I have run into plenty of drivers who were just as "creative" with their elogs.

 

The only thing legal on elog. Is drive time.

 

Even that can be fudged. Not as blatantly as others sure, but no tracking will ever be 100% accurate.

Running around the DC under 5mph is the obvious. Then there is always the PC option that is almost always misused.

 

It is a certain thing, that a huge number of loads are covered by trucks that should have stayed put due to HOS. Lots of them! I can't back it up with any data but I just say it from my own observations. California - Midwest produce freight is a perfect example. When ELDs are enforced, it should decrease capacity quite a bit. However, the question is also, if the ELDs can be cheated one way or another. I have a feeling that those whose livelihood is going to be affected by it, they will try to find a way to cheat ELDs. I've no idea how...falsifying truck vin numbers, trying to edit drive time, or even installling fake ELDs and be able to use just an app...whatever...people who have propensity to be "rebellious" can be very creative. If they succeed, then little will change. Therefore, the fines and sanctions for abusing HOS once the ELDs are in place should be quite high to make such attempts not worth it. Only then, if everyone has ELDs, with no exemptions or exceptions, and everyone is scared enough not to tamper with it, we might see some freight market changes on the capacity side.

Only then, we'll be able to see the real pressure on HOS to be changed and what needs to be changed.

 

I think rates will stay the same. It's the trucks that'll have to change. As in more team operations.

On another note. Maybe Cali CAN be done. Afterall. Average speed trying to leave the populated zone is well under 3 mph.