3126 Dang Loud

Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by Trugo, Nov 23, 2017.

  1. Trugo

    Trugo Light Load Member

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    Im operating a Freightliner FL70 with a 3126 cat 245hp, nearly 1,000,000km (600,000mi) on the truck and engine. This is a great engine for the truck, I really like the performance. It will run hard all day. Doesnt burn a drop or complain at all. But Ill tell you what its loud as heck. The engine note is loud itself. The truck has the stock exhaust setup with a cat brand muffler all in good shape with no leaks. Thats not so bad though But the real killer is the turbo noise. At max boost the truck makes an ear piercing whistle which is cool at first but after months of driving this thing my ears are ringing at all times, even at home on weekends. Im wearing ear protection now but still find the turbo pitch too much. And Im no wussie, I previously drove a cummins N14 with jakes for 4 years and dont remember any ear ringing or high pitched turbo. Maybe im just getting old.

    Anyone else experineced such a thing? Im thinking about trying a different turbo but dont want to shell out the money for nothing.
     
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  3. skellr

    skellr Road Train Member

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    No, your right, the turbo is very ear piercing. I lost some hearing in my left ear from one of those and it didn't take much. Driving next to a K-rail for one mile twice a week with the window down.
     
  4. rolls canardly

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    I have the same setup in a Freightliner M-2. Yes; can be loud for a small kitty - Cat engine.
    I run with earplugs too, so you're not alone there. More hearing loss I don't need. (What?)
    Take the air cleaner completely out; good time to change it. First just look for obvious air intake leaks.
    Check the rubber boot to the air cleaner for cracks in the pleats, I changed mine out cause it had a crack
    right behind the clamp, up against the block where it's hot. Confirm that filter is seated/clamped in boot.
    Make sure turbo flange pipe clamp is installed on lip properly all the way around. I found mine wasn't.
    With air cleaner out, take boot off front of turbo and check turbo bearings, no movement side to side.
    Rebuilt on Amazon around 500 bucks, if your bearings move axially. There is a rebuild insert kit
    to replace internals, but not recommended unless you are really competent, and have a lathe to turn
    the required press tools to push ONLY on the outer race of the bearings. Delicate stuff - easily ruined.
    I also took the turndown off the muffler on the back end, and extended it 4 feet, to frame cross-member
    and re-installed turn-down just for that reason, and also to keep exhaust from swirling and entering cab
    when the windows are down with no load. Keeps the soot off my white side boxes, too.
    Good luck; and let us know what you find.
     
  5. Trugo

    Trugo Light Load Member

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    ok so im not crazy. I recently did some work on the intake tubing and checked it all as best as possible. Can't really pressure test the air to air at this time. The turbo is original and rusty. But the plumbing seems good. Im getting about 22psi max pressure. Like I said The performance seems good and although im not certain there are no leaks. May have to tough it out for a bit..
     
  6. rolls canardly

    rolls canardly Road Train Member

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    My kid took one of those air filters from the sports cars; can't remember the name - looks like a cone?
    Anyway; talk about turbo whine. really loud. I pass another truck and they all looked mad - it's so loud.
    Got that crap off of there in a hurry.
    So that tells me if you got stock air cleaner setup its leaking somewhere.
     
  7. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    We had a fleet of Coke trucks with same set up. Yes, for some reason it is very loud.
     
  8. Trugo

    Trugo Light Load Member

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    I’ve been over the system further and fully examined all connections. Some were a bit loose including the exhaust connection at the turbo. But not much. Everything is now snug and operational.

    Since then I’ve tested sound at operation with a phone app. Noise averages 90db in this truck. I can tolerate the noise with dual protection - plugs and muffs. But this is just too loud. I believe I damaged my ears by driving before I discovered ear protection. I’ve got a mild but continuous hum. I’m not going to continue with this truck.

    I think a problem is the design of the fL70 truck. The cab is very small and does not absorb much vibration. Also the cab has no suspension system, it sits on rubber bushings only which at this point are worn. This transmits significant vibration and noise into the cabin. I’ve noticed that better trucks have air suspension and shocks for the cab. Further, the high performance cat engine is situated very near the driver. This is no long nose Pete. Essentially the cab is mounted on the frame without suspension on top of the engine, inches from engine mounting points.

    This truck is a great money maker, perfectly capable but Ive decided its a safety hazard at 90db.
     
  9. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    Slap on a pair of active shooting muffs. It should kill the ice pick in your ears.

    I myself am deaf and do not hear anything higher than 3500 hertz at any point on the hearing chart or off it. lol.

    I did some slug gunning about ten years ago and the bells have been going since LOL.
     
  10. rolls canardly

    rolls canardly Road Train Member

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    Before you call it quits on a truck you seem to like, look into the sound deadening insulation sheets
    that you put on the outside, like the floors and firewall. Google it. Some of this stuff claims a 30 DB.
    reduction in sound.

    And X1, I'm not far behind you on the hearing loss. I hate it when people turn away from you talking, and you miss the middle part of what they were saying. Did too much .357 magnum shooting, of course
    without ear protection, back in the 80's. I guess the loud music and motorcycles for 44 years helped, too.
     
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  11. TA1199

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    I have an FL80 with 630,000 miles. The truck itself is just loud and poorly insulated. CAT motors are loud to begin with. Mine doesn't burn much oil either. The thing will run all day and night. LOVES heavy loads too.
     
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