Question about Authority

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Mark Griz, Dec 9, 2017.

  1. Mark Griz

    Mark Griz Light Load Member

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    I am an owner operator and have been contracting through a small flatbed company in the Southeast. I am in the process of applying for my authority and have been looking at different loadboards over the past few weeks. I have several questions that I hope someone can answer:
    1. Is the load pay on a load board what the driver receives? Or is there a percentage taken out of that amount posted by the broker?
    2. Do you guys try to develop a close relationship with a few separate brokers and then work from there?
    3. I have been studying the loadboards for a few weeks. It looks like flatbed avg pay has gone down significantly in the past few months. I know that this is the slow season. But when do you start to see the freight pay increasing?

    I have been an owner operator for about 2 years. The company that I am contracted to is a great company, and I am getting 80 percent on loads. Only problem is that the deadhead is killing me. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
     
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  3. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    1. Rate of pay is often not posted. You call and whatever amount you agree upon with a broker or a customer is the amount you will be paid. No rate cut out of that amount. (Unless you screw something up)
    2. Yes, develop relationships with the good brokers. There are many that will lowball you every single time but when the tables turn they are insulted that you are asking for a large rate. You can play this however you like. Also - never rely too heavily on one broker. If they know you need them for return trips they usually skim off more as they know you don't know many others to call for work. Get as many as you can at first then narrow down that list to a handful of good ones and do repeat business with them. If you score a direct shipper, even better. Just don't back solicit a good brokers customer then hope to still get any loads from that broker.
    3. I don't do flatbed but I know the winter is a more difficult time. I would guess it heats up again when the snow melts and many construction projects resume.
     
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  4. Mark Griz

    Mark Griz Light Load Member

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    Thanks for the information.
     
  5. JustinB21

    JustinB21 Bobtail Member

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    As mentioned, the rate you see (or negotiate) you get. When you agree on the load the broker will send you a rate confirmation. To get paid, you will need to invoice the broker and include the rate confirmation and BOL...along with any other necessary items...lumper receipt for instance.

    I'm not sure if you are aware but I wanted to mention that brokers can take 30 days or more to pay. If you sign up with a factoring company to get paid right away...they will take their percentage..typically around 3%.
     
  6. Mark Griz

    Mark Griz Light Load Member

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    Ive been looking at Sureway. Looks like they commit to paying within 3-5 days. I've been trying to build some relationships with a couple of brokers and find out credit scores over the last couple of months. I can see it would be rough to start out if you aren't getting paid for 30 days.
     
  7. JustinB21

    JustinB21 Bobtail Member

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    I am pro factoring because it keeps a cash flow. Obviously, if you have the means to make it through without it...the 3% does add up over time. Most brokers have a quick pay option but that comes at a price too. Perhaps Sureway pays in 3-5 but as a previous post mentioned...you do not want to limit yourself to one broker.

    I don't really like promoting a service but I will say that Triumph Business Capitol (factoring company) has worked out well for me. Their interface is simple. Their billing process is easy...just submit an excel file and a PDF. They set you up with an EFS account and they have a credit check feature right on the home page. I can't say how much better they are then other factoring companies because I only tried one other...but it works for me.
     
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  8. Bobk

    Bobk Light Load Member

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    Take this for what it's worth..

    Live by the board die by the board.
    If you are making a move to obtain your own autority and going to use a broker your still only making 80% and in some cases less... how do you think the broker gets paid. Either seek out your own customer base or ask the company you're leased to.. if you can try to find you're own back haul instead of deadheading all the time.. however that too is a double edged sword.
    Good luck to you
     
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  9. Bobk

    Bobk Light Load Member

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    WHY for the love of god would anyone use a factoring company.. it tells me one thing.. you have no operational capitol
    So you're using a broker who' taking 20 to 25% if not more off the top then your gonna lose another 3 to 5% to get paid a little quicker... that makes a ton of sense to me.. good luck
     
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  10. Mark Griz

    Mark Griz Light Load Member

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    Have a very small customer base at the moment. One to be exact :) Work would consist of 3-5 loads per week in a 200 mile radius, but the pay is worth the effort even for a deadhead back. Working on getting authority now and want to start running under my own authority in February. But I do have a question about the loadboard because I will need to work off the loadboard often.

    So your looking on the load board and find a good load. You call or click on the load and accept the rate. To my understanding, the broker will send you a pickup or load number. Once you arrive at shipper, you load and collect BOL. Do you wrap it up by sending signed BOL's back to broker and then wait for pay? Or do you provide a specific separate invoice along with the BOL to get paid?

    Also, once the carrier and broker agree on a rate, the broker will send a confirmation. Does that go along with the BOL when it's time to turn in?

    Thanks,
     
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