Wow I thought all you guys did was just drive all day and get payed $130k to 230k.How hard can driving be anyway.Anyone can do it. People come on here every day talking about how much money they are going to make if they become an o/o.Its a business.Just like opening a restaurant there is a lot of financial risk involved.And alot of guys are taking a lot of risk and only making company driver pay after all there expenses.Plus no health insurance and no 401k.And when they make it home they have to spend all there time under the truck working on it.Or calling customers.Don’t forget to start saving for that next truck.You will never get a break.Thats a 1 truck business.Enjoy that 40k net was it worth it
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Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Roy2024, Feb 20, 2018.
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First I wanted to thank you all for taking the time and replying. I probably will make you laugh now... I have worked as a Senior Dirctor for an International company in a very different industry for more thank 20 years. Recently, I was let go and frankly I am f...ing done with suite and tie. I always wanted to work in a trade but life had different plans. In my previous life I was making $100K+ annually. I have enough $ to purchase a new rig so I will not have any payment and she will be under manufacture warranty for a while. I figured the following:
$160,000 mil a year
$1.50 per mil
Annual Gross $240,000
Fuel $70,000
Insurance $15,000
License and registration $2,000
Maintenance $26,000
Repairs (not under warranty) $8,000
Salary $90,000
Profit (gross) $29,000
Am I way off track...?
Thanks for your patience and forgive my ignorance.
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160k miles is really high for someone new, meaning every run would have to work out perfectly with little to no waiting. It also means you would have no deadhead miles ran for free. If you were under a contract dedicated to a certain customer it might be possible, but then you would need a second trailer.
I would lower that figure to 100-110k miles a year for the first year. Insurance cost might be higher. Anticipate shutting down for Major holidays, weather, etc. Then there are self employment taxes, miscellaneous expenses like cell phone plans, internet service, loadboard memberships, paying the CPA, all the other taxes and fees like the 2290 etc.
Search on here for some threads by BlairandGretchen, BoyWander and DoubleYellow who chronicle their experiences going from company driver to owner operator. You will gain valuable insight. -
Thank you, shogun. It really need to do my homework.
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Do you have your CDL? Go get it and drive for someone. IDK try TMC. Learn flatbeding. Do it for 6 months and think if you want to buy a truck at that point. Your married to it once you buy it.
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Theres an old saying
"Wanna make a million dollars in trucking? Start with $2 million"
I honestly wouldn't suggest going out right into buying. I tried after a little over a year and a half in and #### near lost every thing. Seriously, My house was in foreclosure, I had bill collectors calling nonstop, my wife almost divorced me. -
When looking at taking my truck to a new company I usually did the math based on 8,500 miles a month (100,000 miles a year). If I can at least break even at that, then I consider it further. Then if I go to work there and I do 12,000 mikes a month, now I’m making money.
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####, talk about taking the wind out of my sails. You guys giving me some great perspectives (all negative, but real) and that is why I came asking y'all.
I am really not done with the idea... I have a family (wife and kid) monthly mortgage, car payment etc so I am not planning to risk my ####. But I also can't live on $60-$70K. That is why I was looking at O/O rather than working as driver. I may just invest on weed stock instead. That is a getting good traction in Canada. Lol
By the way I am in Toronto, Canada.
Can I ask more questions:
If I want to use the truck to haul containers do I need to have a trailer? How does that work. What is better? Flatbed, trailer etc. In terms of potential work?
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Oh, well, in that case...
it is an even worse idea.
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