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Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Roy2024, Feb 20, 2018.

  1. Travisroland

    Travisroland Light Load Member

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    Wow I thought all you guys did was just drive all day and get payed $130k to 230k.How hard can driving be anyway.Anyone can do it. People come on here every day talking about how much money they are going to make if they become an o/o.Its a business.Just like opening a restaurant there is a lot of financial risk involved.And alot of guys are taking a lot of risk and only making company driver pay after all there expenses.Plus no health insurance and no 401k.And when they make it home they have to spend all there time under the truck working on it.Or calling customers.Don’t forget to start saving for that next truck.You will never get a break.Thats a 1 truck business.Enjoy that 40k net was it worth it
     
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  3. Roy2024

    Roy2024 Bobtail Member

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    First I wanted to thank you all for taking the time and replying. I probably will make you laugh now... I have worked as a Senior Dirctor for an International company in a very different industry for more thank 20 years. Recently, I was let go and frankly I am f...ing done with suite and tie. I always wanted to work in a trade but life had different plans. In my previous life I was making $100K+ annually. I have enough $ to purchase a new rig so I will not have any payment and she will be under manufacture warranty for a while. I figured the following:
    $160,000 mil a year
    $1.50 per mil
    Annual Gross $240,000
    Fuel $70,000
    Insurance $15,000
    License and registration $2,000
    Maintenance $26,000
    Repairs (not under warranty) $8,000
    Salary $90,000
    Profit (gross) $29,000

    Am I way off track...?

    Thanks for your patience and forgive my ignorance.

    Cheers,
    Roy
     
  4. Gumper

    Gumper Road Train Member

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    This is going to get interesting
     
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  5. shogun

    shogun Road Train Member

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    @Roy2024

    160k miles is really high for someone new, meaning every run would have to work out perfectly with little to no waiting. It also means you would have no deadhead miles ran for free. If you were under a contract dedicated to a certain customer it might be possible, but then you would need a second trailer.

    I would lower that figure to 100-110k miles a year for the first year. Insurance cost might be higher. Anticipate shutting down for Major holidays, weather, etc. Then there are self employment taxes, miscellaneous expenses like cell phone plans, internet service, loadboard memberships, paying the CPA, all the other taxes and fees like the 2290 etc.
    Search on here for some threads by BlairandGretchen, BoyWander and DoubleYellow who chronicle their experiences going from company driver to owner operator. You will gain valuable insight.
     
  6. Roy2024

    Roy2024 Bobtail Member

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    Thank you, shogun. It really need to do my homework.
    Cheers,
    Roy
     
  7. 77fib77

    77fib77 Road Train Member

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    Do you have your CDL? Go get it and drive for someone. IDK try TMC. Learn flatbeding. Do it for 6 months and think if you want to buy a truck at that point. Your married to it once you buy it.
     
  8. Gunner75

    Gunner75 Road Train Member

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    Theres an old saying
    "Wanna make a million dollars in trucking? Start with $2 million"

    I honestly wouldn't suggest going out right into buying. I tried after a little over a year and a half in and #### near lost every thing. Seriously, My house was in foreclosure, I had bill collectors calling nonstop, my wife almost divorced me.
     
  9. uncleal13

    uncleal13 Road Train Member

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    When looking at taking my truck to a new company I usually did the math based on 8,500 miles a month (100,000 miles a year). If I can at least break even at that, then I consider it further. Then if I go to work there and I do 12,000 mikes a month, now I’m making money.
     
  10. Roy2024

    Roy2024 Bobtail Member

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    ####, talk about taking the wind out of my sails. You guys giving me some great perspectives (all negative, but real) and that is why I came asking y'all.

    I am really not done with the idea... I have a family (wife and kid) monthly mortgage, car payment etc so I am not planning to risk my ####. But I also can't live on $60-$70K. That is why I was looking at O/O rather than working as driver. I may just invest on weed stock instead. That is a getting good traction in Canada. Lol

    By the way I am in Toronto, Canada.

    Can I ask more questions:
    If I want to use the truck to haul containers do I need to have a trailer? How does that work. What is better? Flatbed, trailer etc. In terms of potential work?

    Thanks again.
     
  11. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    Oh, well, in that case...




    it is an even worse idea.

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