Ok, here's a hypothetical question for all you log book gurus:
First some background. I have a non-trucking, full-time job. I drive part-time for a local trucking company in my spare time. Per what I was taught in trucking school, I keep track of my hours worked at my non-trucking job in my log book and turn everything in to the trucking company I work for when I drive.
Now lets say, just for giggles, the economy has hurt the driving opportunities at trucking company #1 and I decide to get another part-time driving job with another company (we'll call them company #2 - clever, huh). That way if there's nothing going on at company #1, I just call company #2 to see if anythings available there. Obviously, it would be all my responsibility to keep track of my hours between the three jobs.
Now the questions.
1) How would I make log book entries and to which company would I give the white log sheets?
2) Would I keep 2 log books? one for company #1 and one for company #2? Or is keeping 2 log books illegal, no matter what?
3) Any other problem you guys see that I haven't thought of?
Howard
Hypothetical question???
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by atomicglock, Dec 28, 2008.
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Somebodys gonna get a headache figuring this one out.lol
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Logs, LogsRus, paging LogsRus.....
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It's really simple . You'd probably keep 2 log books since most companies prefer to have drivers use their preprinted log books . You would have to give copies of both logs to both companies .
The white sheet would go to the company that log book was for . You'd make a copy of it and give it to the other company . -
This is kinda what I was figuring. I just wasn't sure if keeping 2 books was legal.
Also, how would I make the log entries? Say I work for company #2 but I need to show my hours in company #1's log book. Would it work the same way as reporting the hours for my non-trucking job?
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I believe Rick answered just fine.
You would have to calculate all hours worked for both companies on your re-cap so you do not violate the 11,14 & 60/70 hour rule.
You will need to make sure you have a 10 hour break (or proper split break) before driving a tractor/trailer regardless of which company you are working for.
You would need to follow the 11,14 & 60/70 hour rule before getting behind the commercial motor vehicle though. So lets say you work 6 hours at company #1 and then immediately go to company # 2. Time traveling to "work" would be on-duty (if in personal car) then you drive for 5 hours and work a total of 3 on-duty. Before going back to company 1 or 2 (to DRIVE) you would need a 10 hour break. However you could "work" all you wanted. But the total lines 3 & 4 for company 1 & 2 would be calculated into the 60/70 hr rule.
Wow that is confusing and I sure hope I said it right
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Im no expert at the "two" job thing as it rarely happens but I have dealt with it maybe 2 x's in my career
Remember you can work all you want you just can't drive passed the 11,14 or 70. -
It isn't as simple as it sounds and there are questions I have .
How would the logs for each be filled out in the following scenario ?
You start with company #1 at 6 a.m. , do a 15 minute pre-trip , drive 2 hours , do a half hour post/pretrips drop and hook . Drive back 2 hours and 1/2 hour post trip / paperwork . Now it's 11:15 a.m. Take an off duty break and start at company #2 at 1:00 p.m. using their log book and make a similar trip ending your day at 6:00 p.m. . You drove 225 miles for company #1 , 200 miles for company #2 for a total of 425 miles . So what is shown on company number #1's log from 11:15 a.m. to the end of the day (midnight ). What is shown on company #2's log before 1 p.m. ? The logs ask for total miles driven today but will showing the full 425 on both logs cause problems ? Anybody else have a headache ? -
you would have to show it all on each companies log so both companies Know what you did for the day and becareful if you do work for 2 companies you still only get 14 hours to do 11 hours of drive time TOTAL until you take your 10 hour break
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I dont think it would be legal to have two log books.
Unless you have the exact same info in both books that would be like cheating. -
I think that's what Landshark just told us . Two log books with identical info . Both carriers get a copy . There reason for not using one logbook is many carriers have their own custom printed books they want you to use .
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