Hypothetical question???

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by atomicglock, Dec 28, 2008.

  1. atomicglock

    atomicglock Bobtail Member

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    Ok, here's a hypothetical question for all you log book gurus:

    First some background. I have a non-trucking, full-time job. I drive part-time for a local trucking company in my spare time. Per what I was taught in trucking school, I keep track of my hours worked at my non-trucking job in my log book and turn everything in to the trucking company I work for when I drive.

    Now lets say, just for giggles, the economy has hurt the driving opportunities at trucking company #1 and I decide to get another part-time driving job with another company (we'll call them company #2 - clever, huh). That way if there's nothing going on at company #1, I just call company #2 to see if anythings available there. Obviously, it would be all my responsibility to keep track of my hours between the three jobs.

    Now the questions.
    1) How would I make log book entries and to which company would I give the white log sheets?

    2) Would I keep 2 log books? one for company #1 and one for company #2? Or is keeping 2 log books illegal, no matter what?

    3) Any other problem you guys see that I haven't thought of?

    Howard
     
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  3. rjones56

    rjones56 Heavy Load Member

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    Somebodys gonna get a headache figuring this one out.lol
     
  4. Working Class Patriot

    Working Class Patriot Road Train Member

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    Logs, LogsRus, paging LogsRus.....
     
  5. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    It's really simple . You'd probably keep 2 log books since most companies prefer to have drivers use their preprinted log books . You would have to give copies of both logs to both companies .
    The white sheet would go to the company that log book was for . You'd make a copy of it and give it to the other company .
     
  6. atomicglock

    atomicglock Bobtail Member

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    This is kinda what I was figuring. I just wasn't sure if keeping 2 books was legal.

    Also, how would I make the log entries? Say I work for company #2 but I need to show my hours in company #1's log book. Would it work the same way as reporting the hours for my non-trucking job?

    Howard
     
  7. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    I believe Rick answered just fine.

    You would have to calculate all hours worked for both companies on your re-cap so you do not violate the 11,14 & 60/70 hour rule.

    You will need to make sure you have a 10 hour break (or proper split break) before driving a tractor/trailer regardless of which company you are working for.


    You would need to follow the 11,14 & 60/70 hour rule before getting behind the commercial motor vehicle though. So lets say you work 6 hours at company #1 and then immediately go to company # 2. Time traveling to "work" would be on-duty (if in personal car) then you drive for 5 hours and work a total of 3 on-duty. Before going back to company 1 or 2 (to DRIVE) you would need a 10 hour break. However you could "work" all you wanted. But the total lines 3 & 4 for company 1 & 2 would be calculated into the 60/70 hr rule.

    Wow that is confusing and I sure hope I said it right :).
    Im no expert at the "two" job thing as it rarely happens but I have dealt with it maybe 2 x's in my career :)


    Remember you can work all you want you just can't drive passed the 11,14 or 70.
     
  8. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    It isn't as simple as it sounds and there are questions I have .
    How would the logs for each be filled out in the following scenario ?
    You start with company #1 at 6 a.m. , do a 15 minute pre-trip , drive 2 hours , do a half hour post/pretrips drop and hook . Drive back 2 hours and 1/2 hour post trip / paperwork . Now it's 11:15 a.m. Take an off duty break and start at company #2 at 1:00 p.m. using their log book and make a similar trip ending your day at 6:00 p.m. . You drove 225 miles for company #1 , 200 miles for company #2 for a total of 425 miles . So what is shown on company number #1's log from 11:15 a.m. to the end of the day (midnight ). What is shown on company #2's log before 1 p.m. ? The logs ask for total miles driven today but will showing the full 425 on both logs cause problems ? Anybody else have a headache ?
     
  9. LandShark

    LandShark Road Train Member

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    you would have to show it all on each companies log so both companies Know what you did for the day and becareful if you do work for 2 companies you still only get 14 hours to do 11 hours of drive time TOTAL until you take your 10 hour break
     
  10. Coonass

    Coonass "Freshy Fresh"

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    I dont think it would be legal to have two log books.
    Unless you have the exact same info in both books that would be like cheating.
     
  11. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    I think that's what Landshark just told us . Two log books with identical info . Both carriers get a copy . There reason for not using one logbook is many carriers have their own custom printed books they want you to use .
     
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