'03 Pete, RTLO 18918B, C 15, 1.2 million miles.
Saw a dollar bill size spot on the ground this past Sunday (4/1/18), noticed wetness around the slave on the transmission. I ran 420 miles and parked it in the shop. Came in the shop today and YIKES, coolant on the floor and dripping from the bell housing.
I drained the trans and cooling system and am letting it drip overnight. Pulled the cooler and will plug the oil line bungs and loop the coolant lines.
I understand flushing the cooling system is straight water and Dawn dish soap or Cascade, repeat until you get clear drain water.
What's your preference and ratios?
Now, flushing the trans. I've read to use ATF and let run for an hour (Don't Drive!). Drain and refill with 50W n.d. engine oil, then drive ?? miles, drain and refill with your favorite brand of 50W synthetic.
What's the opinion on doing away with the trans. cooler altogether?
I run mostly in the SE. and rarely heavy plus only do about 30k miles a year.
Thanks for the interest.
Trans Cooler Failure - Flushing Techniques?
Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by Klleetrucking, Apr 3, 2018.
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I just had my transmission rebuilt thanks to a leaking cooler that went unnoticed long enough to really muck things up, as there were no external leaks. My mechanic ditched the stock cooler and put an air cooler under the sleeper for it so that the problem never happens again. It's only been a few weeks, but so far, so good. He's done it to several of his other client's trucks, too.
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I ran mine without a cooler for 6 months with no ill effects. I eventually put a rad style one under the bunk like the other poster did. My cooler started leaking antifreezer outside so l left it there with the fluid going through it for the 6 months. The only thing l might say about how you did it is some trans have an oil pump to move fluid through the cooler. Just capping it off might cause an issue. Any good tranny shop should tell you in 30 seconds whether its anything to worry about. lol btw l can gross up to 63 metric so heat shouldnt be an issue for you.
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Yes, the internal oil pump concerns me, I'm not sure if "deadheading" the pump will cause issues. I may have to "loop" it as well. Thanks
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Flushing with regular dex/merc atf is the recommended procedure per Eaton. I usually run it on stands or with the driveshaft out in the shop bay with no load while flushing, but run it through all the gears. Drain while warm and refill with 50 wt.
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Welp, day 2. After draining all night I collected a substantial amount of goop from both the radiator and trans. Got the oil pump lines "looped" as well as the coolant supply lines.
I'll be taking the truck to my trusted shop (80 miles) for some other work so I refilled the trans. and set about flushing the cooling system. Put in 2 cups of Cascade and filled with water, ran it up to about 170*. The draining didn't go as expected. First I got water then more goop, I thought the Cascade would break up the oil and it would come out with the water, complete separation as though the oil is sitting on top of the water and not mixing.
What am I doing wrong?
Have I not done the cycle enough times?
Is there a method where you back feed the system and push the goop out the radiator fill point?
FWIW, the trans had 1 gal. Lucas and the rest 50W synthetic.
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Thank California, Cascade ain't what it used to be. The took most of the phosphorus out of it. Try fleetgaurd restore or penray oil purge. I usually hook garden hose up to heater core to help get the goop out. Takes lots of flushing!
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Thanks. I guess if it were easy.....
My GF suggested ammonia, it is a tried and true cleanser in a multitude of uses. I'm leery of putting anything in the cooling system that could possibly damage the different metals inside the engine. The Penray looks interesting. -
I removed the wet kit on my 2012 Pete last month and dodged this very bullet, I found a tiny bit of coolant in the transmission oil when I drained it so the cooler was just beginning to fail.
I installed an air cooler in front of the radiator and ditched the water intercooler all together.
I flush the components separately by disconnecting the heater hoses to isolate the heater core and flushing the engine separate from the radiator by disconnecting the radiator hoses.
First with a high pressure hose the opposite direction of water flow, then by adding automatic dishwashing liquid into each section and going at it again with the hose after its sits awhile.
I repeat the soap step until the water coming out looks pretty good and free of foam, then I reconnect everything and add the detergent to the radiator again and top it off. Then I start it and let it get warm, pull the bottom plug while it is running and fill while it is draining until the foam is gone.
Then I shut it off and add the final coolant mix, I doubt it all comes out but what is left has never caused a problem, I go through a couple bottles of detergent doing a truck system, I don't use it sparingly.Klleetrucking Thanks this. -
go to the shop and buy the cheapest dishwasher powder you can. make sure its for a dishwasher and not for hand washing.
half fill your cooling system with normal tap water, and while filling the last half add in about 1kg of the power as you go.
you need your thermostats to open unless you want to remove them. to get full flow. for the first 2-3 flushes as soon as they open get to draining the system. as each flush removes more oily sludge you can leave it in there longer. once you've done how ever many flushes is needed so its draining as pretty much dirty water then you can start leaving a powder/water mix in all day. draining it daily after it works all day until it comes out clean. then throw your coolant back in.Klleetrucking Thanks this.
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