DOT Inspections

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Jim the driver, Apr 29, 2018.

  1. Jim the driver

    Jim the driver Bobtail Member

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    Hi, I'm new here and drive a straight job box truck in the northeast. 17,000 GVW little guy. Since they changed the rules to include us in the regulations I've had a rough time understanding my log book. It seems as hard as I try to fill it out properly they almost always find some dumb violation. It seems to me I , and others in my type trucks, are easy targets for them. Almost always finding different issues than the last inspector found. Each time I add that warning to my log book procedures. The most recent was this last week where I had never made pages for my weekend off but got pulled OOS 25 miles from my base because of this.
     
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  3. Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Is there a question ?
     
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  4. Razorwyr

    Razorwyr Road Train Member

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    Do you understand the Hours of Service and just have a problem with form and manner, or are you having problems with all of it?
     
  5. Brandt

    Brandt Road Train Member

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    If you have to run a log book then you should understand the HOS rules. Seems like you should be on ELD and that would solve the simple mistakes. Nobody runs paper log books unless they have 1999 engine or older. Unless you have some other special exemptions
     
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  6. Jim the driver

    Jim the driver Bobtail Member

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    I'm having problems with filling out the paper log book to the letter of the law or the inspectors own view of it. I haven't been told that I can't use paper anymore, but I will look into the ELD for sure. I run 2 different trucks, are the ELD's for each truck or can they be taken with the individual driver? It just seems to me that each inspector picks out a different error, like the example of not ever being told about logging days off that I haven't been doing until now.
     
  7. Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    You have to have one ELD for each truck. Each driver can be assigned to each ELD if they are slip seating for example. Each ELD allows multiple drivers to be assigned.
     
  8. jammer910Z

    jammer910Z Road Train Member

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    Fill out each day and duty status for the correct time segment used.

    I think what you're Q is on this occasion.. from what you said about not filling out a log for your home time.. would be.....
    Each day that you're OFF DUTY at home not working you make a page with 24 hrs lined all the way through line 1.
    It's perfectly legal to make one page for consecutive 24hr periods.
    If you're OFF for 3 full days you can make one page to cover all 3.

    That is optional, but you must still mark the dates and time totals correctly. Annotate everything.
     
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  9. BigBob410

    BigBob410 Road Train Member

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    You should have one of these!! "Being told" is not a good way to go about being legal. 7545.jpg
     
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  10. Jim the driver

    Jim the driver Bobtail Member

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    You guys are the pro's and all in with drivers logs and ELD's. I just get a little confused because most of my driving is same day office to office. I am studying online and you folks are helping me. Thanks.
     
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  11. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    Do you stay inside of a 150 air-mile (172.6 statute miles) radius? (Non-CDL @ only 17K)

    Do you start & end each day at the same location?

    Do you complete your driving each day within 14 hours (16 hours allowed twice per week)?

    Does your company keep a record of the hours that you work?

    If the answer to ALL of the above is "yes", then you are not required to log. You fall under the short-haul exemption found in §395.1(e)(2)

    If the answer to ANY of those is "no", then read, study, and learn §395.8 forward and back because that is what is required. §395.20 through §395.38 covers ELD's. Even if you are required to use an ELD, you'll still need to have a week's worth of paper logs with you (and know how to fill them out) "just in case" there is a malfunction with the ELD.
     
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