NEW Driver - General Help

Discussion in 'Roehl' started by Silver_Rayleigh, May 14, 2018.

  1. Silver_Rayleigh

    Silver_Rayleigh Bobtail Member

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    Thinking about trying Roehl Transport for getting my class A CDL as a career change, but have not read a lot of good reviews.

    From what I hear from drivers who have been in the business long enough most drivers stay in it long enough to get there CL before transferring out or finding someone w/ better rates. From what I have read about Roehl Transport they have a decent CDL school, but after 6-8 months drivers seems to drop/quit or get fired.

    Roehl Transport has a contract you sign which puts you on the hook for what I think is 7K if you do not finish there program and complete there miles. The training is $500 a week which covers 4 weeks, and then when you switch to a trainer its $90 a day for 14 or so days. On average why do solo drivers make after their training, and do lease drivers survive longer or is it better to stay w/ the company.

    Going in on this I feel going company for 15 months to 2 years might be something I would like to do before leasing. I'm still hung up on that since I would rather just get my CDL 1st then worry about this later, but even I need a business plan of some sort for this pending styled future. If I stick w/ company till the program is completed they cannot take $7k away from me when I transfer out, but if I go lease to early I would be on the hook still w/ those weekly payments which are very high. I have found companies which charge $55 a day for a lease, $400 a week, and up to $600. When I look into those price patterns it really sounds like the cheaper one would work, but the downside is the work load and what you will be getting paid down the road based on your miles completed.

    A 9-5 job you know what you’re making since its stable income and you are a W2 employee vs Roehl Transport where you don't always know what each week’s payout will be even though you are still a W2 employee. If you go lease you take yourself out of the W2 bubble and are now a 1099 contract employee, and the freedom may be worth it for some when it is that appealing. What are the benefits to becoming a lease owner over staying w/ the company when your right out of training and can you avoid team ups after training.

    I was also looking into PAM Transport, Stevens Transport, and Riverside Transport which seem to have a better setup. What I have herd bad things about would be Prime Inc., but the training seems worth it only, but I have not found any good news on any YouTube videos supporting how well solo drivers do after they have made it past training and they are finally on their own (90% quit or transfer out).

    Through the door I know pay will be low no matter what when your new and just starting so I would be prepared for that (more money comes w/ experience & negotiating), and to be honest staying on the road 8-12 weeks at a time sounds perfect for me. I literally would not mind staying away months on end as long as I'm able to see the country side and enjoy not having someone over my shoulder. I want them to bleed me dry of my sanity while getting paid for it and racking up experience before I go lease and or o/o.

    I don't mean to sound naive right out the door here but I know from what I have read and of course have scene online that the 1st step w/ no experience is going to be hard. The recruiter will make everything sound better than it ever will be, and of course the training program will be there for you but once you’re out the door is every man/women for themselves unless you pick the right company that has your back. (Which almost never happens)

    The goal for me at least would be to achieve getting my CDL and go company till I get to 6-8 months, and to achieve my endorsements along the way. If you go company 1st you can learn on that end till you either know better or have a taste of trucking for the most part before deciding if this career path is worth the gamble (of course the penalty w/ Roehl is $7K if you did not finish your miles). Most drivers tell me the 2 year mark is where you start to transfer out since the timing is right and your experience has grown to the point where any trucking company will hire you on the post (pending a good driving record).

    Of course another idea I had would be after I am out the door from training go lease instead of waiting, and set aside $0.15 per mile so after the lease ends I have the lease money on top of what I have saved to either buy the truck or invest and or purchase another. (Yet another possible idea) That idea relies on the assumption I'm making enough money per week to cover this lease and my general needs. If I'm not making enough then I have another setback and I would be in deeper debt w/ Roehl Transport. (Depending on their lease agreement and if I could walk away or not)

    Let me know if there is anything I had missed or if I just plan out sound crazy or have my stuff together after posting this.

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  3. Cattleman84

    Cattleman84 Road Train Member

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    Do you already know how to drive a CMV? Do you know anyone that would let you borrow one for the test? If you answered both of these questions yes then just study on your own and borrow a truck for the test. Then find a small mom and pop trucking company to get 6 months to 2 years experience then you can go where ever you want. Save yourself thousands of dollars and lots of headache. I've never been to a truck driving school... It just takes some common sense and practice.

    If you answered either of those questions no, then you had best go to some type of school for the training and/or truck.
     
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  4. Silver_Rayleigh

    Silver_Rayleigh Bobtail Member

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    I'm afraid that is out of the question and would rather rely on a training program (one w/ paid incentives) and or school for proper training over winging it with some unlicensed instructor. Locally I do not know of anyone who owns or operators a truck w/ a CDL sadly so that to is out of the question.

    Just have a regular motor vehicle license without any formal manual training.
     
  5. Cattleman84

    Cattleman84 Road Train Member

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    Kinda thought so... But I had to throw it out there... I grew up driving truck on the farm so getting my licence was a cake walk... I know this isn't an option for most people now days. But I had to suggest it in case it was possible for you... Good luck... And were I in your shoes I would avoid leasing... It puts you on the hook for a lot, and if for some reason you decide you need to go elsewhere it can make life difficult. O/O can be very satisfying if you are capable, but for myself I will remain a company driver with a good company that allows me to dispatch myself to run their loads. I tell them when I want to go out and when I want to be back and they make it happen... If it don't I walk. I know those companies are few and far between but they do exist, otherwise I wouldnt be driving. I ALWAYS do my 34 hr reset at home.
     
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  6. Silver_Rayleigh

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    I know of a few companies who have a walkaway agreement w/ there lease where you can return your truck at anytime to exit the lease, and another one only charges you by the mile when you are driving w/ a load so the clicker stops when your off the clock....

    Minus the fact lease owners are on the hook for a weekly and or monthly debt what benefits do they have outside of no longer being a company driver or W2 employee.
     
  7. Lav-25

    Lav-25 Medium Load Member

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    If you are after a CDL, unless you are under real financial problems, then keep your day job, go to a local community collage that offers cdl training, apply for a student loan or pell grant to pay for it. The one here in ABQ is done on weekends and takes longer than a full time school ( 6 months vs 1 month) , but in the end it is the same Cdl. Also you are NOT locked into a contract with a Company without even knowing what will or can happen. Paying a school loan is ALOT easier afterwards than endenturing yourself to a company who may or maynot treat you right
     
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  8. Silver_Rayleigh

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    I'm thinking of going company after I get my CDL, but the hard part is weeding out the best starter company. Goal would be to stay company long enough to get my experience in (1-2 years), and to gain endorsements before either moving on or switching to lease. (get your feet wet enough that you don't drawn)

    I know at first it will be a nightmare or something you have to adjust to and more, but I feel the reward could be worth it as long as I don't get to ####y. Jumping into a lease right off the bat may add more stress vs making things easier. I want to learn what I can while I can at my first company before jumping ship so I can have a better handle on where I want to go and where I see myself in 5-10 years.
     
  9. Lav-25

    Lav-25 Medium Load Member

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    A leased/rented truck is exactly that. If you lease with some company then you pay them, you'll get a 1099 to do at tax time, so you pay All Taxs, and then all the little stuff -fuel, registration, possibly trk insurance, and once they take it out of your settlement, you still have to pay your taxs and bills. Oh lets not forget maintence costs and break down/ repair costs. So NO, do not lease / rent a truck until you have seen what it is ( trucking and the life), and after you got a little money saved up, then decide what to do. BTW - i have done both -o/o and comp driver, so take it for what it's worth. Good luck
     
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  10. x1Heavy

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    I worked in a Tavern 4 months between weekends trucking school. Sat sun prior to sunrise it's all about trucking school. Total focus. I remember all of it like yesterday.

    Do not sign a note promising to be billed whatever thousands to repay should you be fired, dismissed and so on. The greatest danger to any newbie in trucking is the first two years roughly. Your CDL is your greatest asset. Do not indenture yourself to a company for that.

    Forget about lease and 1099 for right now. It's true as a company driver on W2 you don't know what your pay will be next week. But if you join the RIGHT company that PAYS you instantly via Direct deposit, comcheck or whatever you like the moment that 5th wheel goes clank onto a load you just picked up. You can ALWAYS set aside a savings amount against famine time out there in this industry. Some weeks you will feast, other weeks you might eat a bowl of soup several times, but regardless your savings WILL increase slowly and surely.

    You document everything you do into a Journal by hand. So that if they MISSED paying you a particular load for 4 weeks, you can go by the DM show the evidence (Copies of BOL, copies of company papers related to that run and your trip number etc and they will cut you a check then and there.)

    So the only thing you drove is a car. That's good. It's really good to have a empty head and no bad habits for the first trainer to get a hold of you in a 18 wheeler out there. It's two whole different worlds. Your car by weight will fit onto one pallet. We can put 48 of them into that trailer sometimes if they are not that heavy each.
     
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    Stevens Transport - www.stevenstransport.com
    Pittsburgh CDL Training Location

    1200 Lebanon Rd., Suite 101 | West Mifflin, PA 15122
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