1. Hurst

    Hurst Registered Member

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    No disrespect,.. but I think you misunderstand the concept and processes that are involved with being an O/O.

    If you own the truck,.. you work for yourself. You book your own loads with your own customers or brokers customers. You handle all of the invoicing, billing, insurance, permits, registrations, licensing, repairs, fuel, etc etc. You would be a business owner. Driving the truck become secondary.

    Again,. not to be insulting. But if you lack the self respect to walk out on a carrier that is taking advantage of you, it is highly doubtful that being naive, you will survive any better dealing with customers and brokers.

    This is a dog eat dog, cut throat business. The O/O parked next to me at a truck stop,.. even though we had a nice friendly conversation,.. he is not my friend. He is my competitor and someone I most certainly would not trust to share any personal business information with.

    Hurst
     
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  3. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    At the Tractor and Trailer Store of course.
     
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  4. Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    There is nothing more important than my family. including my wife, my two brothers & my little dog. End of story. Period. If a family member is in the emergency room & is serious enough that they need me, no load, no truck/equipment nor company will keep me from going. That includes their contract.

    If you want to sue me, sue me.

    If you are so worried about the contract that you cant quit, make them fire you. Put a sign on the back of the trailer saying something like "show me your ****". Start ranting & raving at other drivers, shippers, receivers &/or DOT officers. Give'em the finger... Loose the paperwork.... etc, etc.
    I'm certainly not saying do anything that would endanger anyone, but just be an ***hole. Do anything to cause havock for the company. Not just once, but over & over.... all in one day.

    By days end, you'll be completely free of that contract & there wont be a competition clause to worry about.
     
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  5. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    Zvar, actually no it isn't bad advice.

    Your example is valid, but there is a catch to it and it should be nullified by the courts because it entraps people if the court accepts this as the standard we need to abide by.

    So here is the catch, those two drivers;

    were trained by crst, with one year obligation to pay them back for training

    and

    did not complete their training and was subject to paying CRST back.

    They left CRST but the law suit wasn't against them but another company.

    The foundation of this lawsuit was "Werner had intentionally interfered with CRST's employment contracts by soliciting and hiring away truck driver employees whom CRST had trained at its expense." and in doing so violated the Californian Unfair Competition law.

    The court ruled exclusive to the contract and California law, not federal law, not OSHA or anything else.

    OK so you can't apply this to the OP's case.

    We are not talking about this carrier suing another company for a driver quitting and then finding other employment because the courts won't support it, she and her husband are not under personal service contracts, nor are they under any employment contract, they are essentially contractors when they are under a contract between the carrier and the owner unless there is an additional need for the carrier to expend money (example training) in order for them to fulfill the company's labor needs.

    Again my advice is to quit, then find work, not find work and then quit, this takes the burden off of the OP and puts it back on the company.

    AND if they are under an employment contract, they are an still at-will employees, subject to termination either by the company or by the employee at any time without notice.

    In addition to this, seeing that they are not getting home time as requested, nor are they "allowed" to visit an ER, there is now a serious issue of working conditions and maintaining a safe working condition not being fulfilled - FMCSA has regs about sick drivers - and the carrier is now forcing a driver to work while being ill which nullifies the contract with them based on the intent of the carrier.
     
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  6. Korodoch

    Korodoch Bobtail Member

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    My company is looking for teams and understands the needs for hometime. Hell, they are switching me to local duty so I can get cataract surgery for my dog.
    I am sure my employer would not care to hire you if the situation is legit.
     
  7. Cam Roberts

    Cam Roberts Road Train Member

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    Lmao. This is great
     
  8. buzzarddriver

    buzzarddriver Road Train Member

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    If they have Amazon Prime, they get FREE two day shipping from the tractor trailer store!!!!
     
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