I work for Crete and have had no issues with being forced to run illegal. Quite the opposite, I have been told more than once by my fm to log it as i do it. When I have had a hos issue i have told the dispatcher that i could not do that load and have usually gotten a different load. That's pretty good considering the freight issues we have right now. I'm sure there are drivers that push the limits, but I doubt that they were forced to, or threatened with their job. As far as pay, I've never had an issue. I'm thinking that paperwork wasn't turned in on time and he was paid on the next check.
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Discussion in 'Crete' started by skipper01us, Jan 9, 2009.
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Luvtheroad, if you don't want people to know your level of experience might I suggest deleting your blog post on your recent time at driving school?
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If the other people on here don't like what I have to say, they need to say so and I'll drop off, but it sure won't be due to you.Sarge_az Thanks this. -
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The moral to this story (as I see it) is to just say no. The NTSB report stated that:
"In total, the accident driver made three and a half round trips between Jacksonville and High Springs, Florida, from January 2425. Had he not been involved in the accident, he would have completed four round trips. Even with only three round trips between the two locations, it would have been very difficult to remain in compliance with the hours-of-service regulations. Qualcomm communication data show that the driver was asked to make three round trips on this route or at least two and a half runs, thus pressuring the driver to the outer limits of the State regulation. Furthermore, the Qualcomm data show the location of the truck and should have alerted Crete that the driver was making more trips than would have been allowable."
Why the driver was attempting a forth run we may never know, but a picture of that van should be on every dispatcher's desk and truck driver's visor.
If one feels threated/forced/compelled into taking a load they cannot legally run, have that dispatcher send on the Qualcom or fax you a paper as to the consequence of your actions of refusing the load. There is more than one hungry attorney out there that will work for food!
I have run legal and I have run outlaw-I'm no angel by no means-but I have told more than one shipper/receiver/dispatcher on more than one occasion that I went to bed and have been thanked by the same, more than once, for doing so.andrew5184 Thanks this. -
Here are the pictures and here is the link again for the full report: http://www.ntsb.gov/publictn/2008/HAB0805.htm
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The only situation that might come up is with regards to detention pay. We are paid detention when the customer pays Crete. Sometimes I am paid the next week, and sometimes it takes a month or more. But I so rarely need to put in for detention and it is usually only for 30mins to an hour that it really is of no concern to me.
The driver that posted this is simply disgruntled and flat out lying about his experience to justify why he was fired. As far as being forced to deliver a load when he was out of hours. Another lie. On the few occasions that I have been sent load offers that could not be delivered within my log restraints, one simple message stating that fact was all that was needed to void the load without a single question from dispatch.
Safety has absolute authority in these situations and no dispatcher would ever require a driver to run illegally. No Crete driver runs illegal at any time. Our logs are audited on a regular basis to enforce 100% compliance and our trucks are tracked by qualcom at all times. We can't even fudge our logs by 15mins without getting called on it. As a matter of fact, I was just talking to a driver in our Columbus yard who was charge safety points for driving 15mins past his 14th hour. He logged it legal, but was caught by the logging department for something as little as that.Last edited: Jan 24, 2009
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Luvtheroad, my point was that for somebody who can't even be called a newbie yet you talk an awful lot of trash. You come off in a lot of your posts as some seasoned veteran full of hard won wisdom but in truth the reality is far different. Remember that next time before you start trashing another driver like you did to the OP.
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