I grow hay in the Dakotas. Local buyers paid $3 to $5 per mile to haul it locally last year (within 100 miles). My question is what would be a typical rate per load to haul about 30 or 35 loads (40000 pounds) of tightly bundled small square bales of hay from Dakotas to Texas, 1500 miles? About a load a week. I am guessing like $1.00 to $1.50 a mile. Could be in a dry van, reefer, or tarped on a flatbed. I have considered buying a truck and getting some people I know to drive it but am worried that back-haul loads could be hard to find these days. Thank you.
Typical rates question
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Potsy, Feb 3, 2009.
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You are right about getting a back haul back out of TX. If you are pulling a flat bed it seems like ever time I get in TX ther are alot of loads moveing in TX but very few comeing out of TX. AS for the rate I would say at least pay 1.50 per mile but you could find some drivers who would do it for less than a dollar a mile but I dont see how they do it.
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if it was a one time lload you could get it covered for $1.50 (not by me but you could) the problem is you want multiple loads back to back. I live in TX I know better then anyone the situation with freight coming out of TX and you will have a very difficult time finding any backhaul much less a regular back haul.
for me if I were to commit to it i'd have to charge you enough to deadhead back. Probably $2.50 to $3.00 a mile. dependant on a few things -
Potsy, you didnt say what time of year you need this hay moved, but lately this winter, and including today as I type this, they are moving alot of spuds outta North Dakota. Rates are about $2.00 per mile right now.
I would think you'd have a hard time covering these loads to Texas for $1.00, or even $1.50, with fuel where it is now.
Me personaly, I wouldn't do it for anywhere near $2.00/mile (to Texas)
But $4.00/ mile and you can load as many bales into my reefer as you'd like.
Here's another potential deal breaker - who loads and unloads? -
Win-Mag, is it the 300 ultra-mag you are refering to? A friend has one, it is a fine rifle.
Dave -
"Ultra" mag is Remington
"Win" (or winchester) mag is.....Winchester
I have a 338 win mag
300 ultra mag is like a 30-06 on steroids -
I would load, recipient would unload with a forklift.
Florida any better for backhauls than Texas? I imagine they all stink these days.
PotsyLast edited: Feb 3, 2009
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potsy,
small squares.....no way for under $2.45/mile.....they are a PITA to secure properly (DOT spec)
large square and we could talk at about $2.10/m
tarp is more money.....sorry but $1000 in canvas aint cheap to replace often
but dont expect me back for a few weeks....texas always sucks to get out of....even if you get a lucky pipe load back to north dakota
but you can always throw it on the board and see if a sucker bites -
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DaveLast edited: Feb 3, 2009
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