Typical rates question

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Potsy, Feb 3, 2009.

  1. Potsy

    Potsy Bobtail Member

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    I grow hay in the Dakotas. Local buyers paid $3 to $5 per mile to haul it locally last year (within 100 miles). My question is what would be a typical rate per load to haul about 30 or 35 loads (40000 pounds) of tightly bundled small square bales of hay from Dakotas to Texas, 1500 miles? About a load a week. I am guessing like $1.00 to $1.50 a mile. Could be in a dry van, reefer, or tarped on a flatbed. I have considered buying a truck and getting some people I know to drive it but am worried that back-haul loads could be hard to find these days. Thank you.
     
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  3. slick9802

    slick9802 Bobtail Member

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    You are right about getting a back haul back out of TX. If you are pulling a flat bed it seems like ever time I get in TX ther are alot of loads moveing in TX but very few comeing out of TX. AS for the rate I would say at least pay 1.50 per mile but you could find some drivers who would do it for less than a dollar a mile but I dont see how they do it.
     
  4. MedicineMan

    MedicineMan Road Train Member

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    if it was a one time lload you could get it covered for $1.50 (not by me but you could) the problem is you want multiple loads back to back. I live in TX I know better then anyone the situation with freight coming out of TX and you will have a very difficult time finding any backhaul much less a regular back haul.
    for me if I were to commit to it i'd have to charge you enough to deadhead back. Probably $2.50 to $3.00 a mile. dependant on a few things
     
  5. Winchester Magnum

    Winchester Magnum Road Train Member

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    Potsy, you didnt say what time of year you need this hay moved, but lately this winter, and including today as I type this, they are moving alot of spuds outta North Dakota. Rates are about $2.00 per mile right now.

    I would think you'd have a hard time covering these loads to Texas for $1.00, or even $1.50, with fuel where it is now.

    Me personaly, I wouldn't do it for anywhere near $2.00/mile (to Texas)

    But $4.00/ mile and you can load as many bales into my reefer as you'd like.

    Here's another potential deal breaker - who loads and unloads?
     
  6. dangerous dave

    dangerous dave Light Load Member

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    Win-Mag, is it the 300 ultra-mag you are refering to? A friend has one, it is a fine rifle.

    Dave
     
  7. Winchester Magnum

    Winchester Magnum Road Train Member

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    "Ultra" mag is Remington

    "Win" (or winchester) mag is.....Winchester

    I have a 338 win mag

    300 ultra mag is like a 30-06 on steroids
     
  8. Potsy

    Potsy Bobtail Member

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    It would be mid June on into winter, whenever weather would allow.

    I would load, recipient would unload with a forklift.


    Florida any better for backhauls than Texas? I imagine they all stink these days.


    Potsy
     
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  9. broncrider

    broncrider Road Train Member

    potsy,

    small squares.....no way for under $2.45/mile.....they are a PITA to secure properly (DOT spec)

    large square and we could talk at about $2.10/m

    tarp is more money.....sorry but $1000 in canvas aint cheap to replace often

    but dont expect me back for a few weeks....texas always sucks to get out of....even if you get a lucky pipe load back to north dakota


    but you can always throw it on the board and see if a sucker bites
     
  10. Potsy

    Potsy Bobtail Member

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    I imagine the oil field loads to north dakota pretty much dried up this year
     
  11. dangerous dave

    dangerous dave Light Load Member

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    there are a few, very few and pay has gone down too.

    Dave
     
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