Question regarding Labels and Placards

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by lbilba, Jul 28, 2018.

  1. lbilba

    lbilba Bobtail Member

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    I want to transport :
    12 Barrels (55 gallons of Gasoline) 1203,3
    6 Barrels (55 gallons of Diesel Fuel) 1202,3

    Total weight including pallets is about 2200 lbs.

    What kind of placard should I use?
    1) Flammable, Combustible, Gasoline, Identification number only?
    2) If I need a placard with the number, Can I Use a Blank Placard Class 3 and write manually the Identification number?

    Thanks in advance
     
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  3. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    If you have the Hazmat response guide, it should have the UN Numbers you qouted. 1200's generally is Flammable Class Three.

    Check 49 CFR, Parts 100-185 through for your particular situation.

    https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/sites/fmc...ls_Markings_Labeling_and_Placarding_Guide.pdf

    You probably have enough on hand to placard the vehicle that contains that particular load. Double check that too.

    Also check flash point temperatures of your product. That will decide what placards you can or cannot use. If I remember right (Don't qoute me on this... check your Hazmat guide) it's going to be somewhere between 93F flash point on up to around a little more than 100 F

    Since we are hotter than that today *Shrugs.

    I am if this was my truck, I would carry two flammables, one with 1203.3 and the other with 1202,3 And I tell you why I think to do this. Gasoline mixed with Diesel is essentially a bomb. If you only showed say Gasoline and not Desiel when fire fighters are running up with a hose that's not fair to them or anyone when the whole thing goes up. Show both numbers UN for gasoline and for Desiel to the product you are hauling.

    Ive said enough. I held a hazmat endorsement and hauled a portion of it except radioactive (That I know of... excluding escorted military containers...) and a large portion of the explosiuves area. Those two I never touched. I turned in my Hazmat in the 90's after a go around with a particularly stupid dispatcher bordering on abuse for his refusal to acknolwedge the then in place bypass rules for Baltimore City.

    So my knowledge is strictly limited to roughly what the guidebook says for the given year. I have not been updated in literally decades. But I do take a stab at simple questions now and then. With the understanding that many on here TTR will provide a better quality if not a education updating for me from time to time.
     
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  4. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    Where do you get the weights from?


    The total for both products alone is 6445 lbs - excluding the drums and pallets.
     
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  5. lbilbatua

    lbilbatua Bobtail Member

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    Sory I meant to write 7200 lbs
     
  6. CrossettDriver

    CrossettDriver Light Load Member

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    1202 for diesel? You in Canada?
     
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  7. DTP

    DTP Road Train Member

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    Class 3 (Flammable) has to be placarded if it’s 1001 lbs or greater. And manually writing UN Numbers is no good, get numbered stickers and use those. You can pick them up in bulk fairly cheap online or just pick them up at any shop or retailer.
     
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  8. Jazz1

    Jazz1 Road Train Member

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    ThAts what I was told and then I hook up to this. I will be using my crayons for a while yet
     
  9. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Right. Diesel should be 1993.
     
  10. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    I would run a regular class 3 placard for the diesel, and a blank class 3 with “1203” for the gasoline.

    We hand write UN numbers in a pinch, but truth be told I sure don’t like to.
     
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  11. I glide 47

    I glide 47 Road Train Member

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    Flammable 3 should cover both don't need un. Numbers because of the package group
     
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