What companies are actully hiring trainees durin economic crisis?

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You know, I think I am gonna step in here too. I have to agree with Adam and Luv. It really doesn't matter if a company works for someone else or not. What really matters is if it is going to work for YOU. And if you are happy there, and you are getting treated well, or at least decently, then in today's world, be it trucking, fast food, retail sales, or even Wall Street, then that is a feather in your cap right there!

It amazes me that people are willing to base their decisions solely on another's opinion without at least looking into it for themselves. Especially when the opinion is coming from someone who is a literal "unknown", being an anonymous poster in the internet community.

I would caution ANYONE to take advice from someone who starts out their post "I used to work for them and THEY SUCK!".... that in itself throws up all sorts of red flags. Now let me say that there are people out there on these forums whose opinions I do value and respect. But I have read more than one entry in one part of the forum. You can get a feel for them and their "persona".

LuvTheRoad, I think you put some real light on the company with that little history lesson, and you are right. Companies will eventually fail if they don't "do it right". And if there were so many people that hated working for Werner, you would not see their trucks everytime you turned around. There ARE (contrary to popular belief) a bunch of jobs out there to be had, and Werner's trucks would all be sitting in lots somewhere.

hehehehehe just had a thought..... maybe you don't see all the Werner people posting positive remarks because they are too busy running loads......

One other thing I do want to say, and PharmPhail, please don't take offense because it is not my intention, but most of Werner's "reputation" on these forums appears to be brought on by a lot of negative posts, so I am not sure one would be happier elsewhere. My opinion is it is sort of hard to say how cold the water is unless you swim in it first.

I had an instructor in school that was gruff, hard on the students, and didn't put up with BS, excuses, or whiners when it came to driving the truck. And almost all of the students were not happy to find out they had to drive with him, and constantly complained about having to drive with him. I, on the other hand, LOVED this guy! How he "did it" taught me many valuable lessons, and had I not driven with him, I might have never made it through the driving test. And I can promise you, when I jumped in the truck at Magnum for my hiring road test, he was right there beside me (in spirit). So what didn't work for others, not only worked for me, but made the difference (I think).

See where I am going with this?

 

yeah scooter i know what you mean by instructor. theres one like that in paducah ky his name is walt. hes the biggest hard ### i have ever meet in my life. also like what you said new drivers (students) didn't want to go out on the road with him. but hes has a 95% passing with students. why b/c the man don't mess around. if you do something wronge your the 1st to know about it. if you think your doin good and ask him what he think your doin. if your sucking he will tell you. but he will also tell you how to fix it and do it right. i had a problem with down shifting. he had me on a state road with 2 line traffic. had me shifting from 8th to 7th as fast as i could do it. needless to say im almost a pro at down shifting now. but if it wasn't for him doin what he did. i may not have my cdl today. and i'll always be thanking that man for being a hard ###

 

wow thas sad to see someny complains about slowfreigt no miles no money no time hm mm...... a better estay where im . ..i was thinkig goint back over tha road simes like all around is bad news. well luck to all drivers outer god bless all.

 

Nope not at all. And while you amicably navigated all sides of the emotional fences present here, you did the right thing and chose from the best of the information you could find.

If only there was a place people could join together and relate their experiences with different companies, so that others may learn and be forewarned about their mistakes...

Of course you have to add the words "on balance" to any qualified statement around here. You have to be keen to whatever confounders there are that disproportionately weigh a group of reviews to other sets of reviews. There are 5 such companies, who, on balance, have terrible overall reputations. They are easy to state, and anyone reading enough threads will generate an identical list.

CR England
Swift
USX
Werner
Covenant

An expanded list would also include JB Hunt, FFE, CRST.

Lease deals would include more names, but they tend to be stacked against the buyer.

That's pretty much it. Just about anyone else is pretty fair game. ALL have terrible posts written about them, but they are not bad ON BALANCE. This means that all the so called bad companies will have a few that were quite satisfied, and the so called good companies still have people po'd at them. It is my contention that some people would be happy anywhere and have lower expectations (which I just might be a part of). Conversely, there are those not happy anywhere, because they're just not happy people. It is easy to recommend Roehl, Maverick, McElroy, Schneider, TMC (becoming very iffy though), Prime, Watkins-Shepard, Trans-Am and so many more. OH, and they all take graduates with the exception of some recent freezes.

Werner is the only one of the whole lot that has a dedicated wernersucks.

So I ask, if you're going to take your time to choose wisely and read 85% bad about a company, and then just disregard them... then WHY COME HERE AT ALL???? Yes, stay for the people, but come for the 411!

 

Not Schneider: they closed their school a while back. I wanted on with them because of a local terminal and that they seem to prefer mature drivers.
I certainly qualify as 'mature' (55).
One thing about balance as well; the larger the company, the more complainants there would be. But you'd also expect to see more people satisfied with said company too. Not so much the case with the 5 listed.

 

Not trying to tell you what to do, but if you have a decent job it might be a good idea to stay where you are until the economy picks up a little.
Stay safe

 

OK, here we go again...
Werner is the #4 TL carrier in north America. An average of 8,000 trucks and over 24,000 trls. Biggest portion is DV, then you have TCU and lastly FB. FB being the smallest amazes me since that's what they started out with.
Almost all big carriers have over 100% turnover, its the nature of the beast. I would be willing to bet Phail's purple hippo that it is not the company's fault for most of the reason that a person leaves any big carrier. I am saying this tongue in cheek, because its all perception. Please remember that I do NOT work for Werner or any of the big boys.
After salary, rate per mile or whatever you want to call it, the reason would be that it's not what most people thought it was going to be. I need to inject a little humor into it or it would be too sad to finish reading...
The new bright eyed person who has gotten his/her CDL and is hired on with the big carrier, goes thru orientation. If you arent with a good trainer, it can be living hell. No two ways about it. A lot of people never make it past that, they leave.
If they have a decent person and they make it thru orientation, then they hopefully get a truck right away or real soon afterward. Again, how long do you wait? Person thinks its too long, can't wait, they quit. Here's another driver gone...
Person gets a truck, they are out there all by themselves. Here is where it can get tricky. OMG, I am out here alone, what do I do? It's pretty scary. Most people arent really prepared to be on their own this soon. This is the most different lifestyle that you can imagine. I can't even imagine, being out there for weeks if you are OTR. The loneliness gets to some, being away from the family, or the family pressures. They don't like the lifestyle, another driver gone...
The stress of everything, and it's stressful. Dealing with shippers and consignees, nice ones and not so nice ones, being ontime, sitting if there is no freight, etc, etc. Some people can't or don't want to have all the stress for the amount of money they are being paid. POOF! another driver gone...
If they are with the big companies, and those are the ones willing to take a chance on new drivers, they are numbers. There are so many drivers, that the dispatchers, planners cant/dont take the time to know all of the drivers assigned to them. No personal touches. Driver won't ever get the warm and fuzzy feeling. Another driver bites the dust.
OK the guy is not happy, the family is missing him, he misses the family, he's lonesome out there. His new black cowboy hat blows off in the parking lot at the truck stop and gets run over by a truck... The straw that broke the camel's back. That's it, he's gone, another driver quits.
Endless list of why, but mostly they feel that they are treated badly, maybe they are.
Here is another useless stat... From what I am told, most of those drivers who leave, do so in the first 30 days and 90 days. For the most part they leave the industry never to return.
But think of all the drivers who have been with those big bad terrible companies for 10,15,20yrs or more. They are there because they have made the company work for them. Not because they can't go anywhere else. That company no matter who it is works for them.

 

I defer to add that the drivers who stay are often one of two types (to simplify)...
One is the guy who just has a lot of tolerance, keeps his mind off the problems and focuses on the best of life he can find out there. He's probably a bit of a professional too: job oriented.
The other is a guy who is basically a loser. Maybe no other real job skills or ambition or study habits; he is probably just a slob who basically parasites off the company and you probably hear more of him than the other guy on the CB. This guy won't quit: has to be fired, but stays just under the radar enough to stay.
Both types have no problem being away from home. Just for different reasons.
Years back, in some ways, I almost WAS the second guy. I know.

 

Well said...

 

for what?? they are only working u as a part time . is too sad tha poor new guys dont know eny better . like i did if i wiill know eny better i will naver let snaider use n abuse me like they did thie big ##### companis use n manipule new guys i ths industry ishwhay when u as a new driver lern tha ropes . they kick you off tha curb u need to make more money u kow tha game now so they don lik you to rise up tnx u all god bless all dont forgetme god ​