This is true but if you enjoy the job I would say it is worth the risk, just do your best to keep it between the lines. It is sad what companies are paying OTR drivers, really rediculous. As long as they can find warm bodies to fill the seats, foreign or domestic they could care less..corporate greed is what it's all about
The more I learn, the more I cant believe the amount of risks truckers take.
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Great post x1heavy it took me a while to digest it.
I would never work for $0.35 per mile even as a complete newbie. I don't know why guys work for such a pittance. I got hired for $0.50 a mile fresh out of CDL school. I am now at $0.55 per mile .... ) $0.54 per mile with the company per diem program to save me on taxes.x1Heavy Thanks this. -
The JOB for me right now is a stepping stone for me at the moment. I rather be on the beach working 5-8 hours a week living in south east asia making $15,000 a month like I was before doing my online business 7 years ago. But that is not an option for me anymore. It was a great while it lasted though.
For now this trucking is the best JOB I ever had so far, (just don't like the risk and some other factors) I really enjoy driving out west through Utah and Colorado. But I cant see myself doing this JOB as a career for 10/20/30 years. No way in hell, I will be out of this industry in a few years for sure.x1Heavy Thanks this. -
Im sorry my post is big and took some digesting as you put it. I don't know how to distill a response sometimes to certain topics with several issues and a can of worms besides on many more.
Trucking in my opinion has not gotten better since the 70's in many ways and has gotten worse.
Maybe that is why I fight so hard here sometimes and rile people with very large posts. I point to Alexander Hamilton who served as Treasurer under George Washington in the white house. Alexander had to build a money system that we use to this day. They said over and over that Alexander will use 100,000 words to make his point. The more I study the man, the more I find similarities with me.
I always try to talk enough (Write) and then shut up. And depending on either bad things or good things coming back proceed either way. But I never try to beat a dead horse with words. It's difficult for me. And probably more so for most of the people who are raised on two sentences with Twitter, facebook etc.
I have to smile when I come across a large post, like a really good rant with a number of points to debate, discuss or try to do something nice about. The resulting larger posts from me causes some people to run screaming. Ive had gone into 40, 60K word posts that needed breaking up to 3 or 4 posts to comply with the forum limits on 10K words.
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There is a risk in everything.
2 million trucks on the road and the vast majority operated professionally.
If a driver is tried, found guilty of a charge and sentenced to 5 or 55 yrs in prison it's not because he had no culpability in an incident .
We live in a litigious society, not just our field either.
It's always been "how much justice can you afford"
I'm on my 44th year in the truck and never have I had to"beg" nor have I ever felt "raped" by an employer.
I've made an above average living.
Free market means if you don't like what your earning you go elsewhere.
Unsure what unions your referring to unless you meant deregulation.
I rarely work 70 hrs per week and sleep in my own bed each night and make breakfast each morning.
And what type of promotion would you expect to receive as a driver.
Many have went on to office or sales positions, if that's your idea of a promotion.
Sometimes a promotion means more trucks and a stronger company.
Most like the freedom and independence.
If you've found it a dead end then you have taken a wrong turn.
Didn't mean to upset your delicate sensibilities but it sounds like your somewhat disillusioned and the industry is not ever going to be a good fit for yourbrtwbstr, kemosabi49, Ruthless and 6 others Thank this. -
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Lawyers are very good at twisting the narrative or shifting the blame. You can be a trucking professional for 44 years and then in a split second some 4 wheeler sedan out of nowhere cuts across 4 lanes on the highway because he missed his exit. You slam into his rear end killing his 2 kids. Unless you have video evidence it will be your word against his. You could easily be accused of causing the accident. You were tailgating following to closely is how his attorney will spin it at your court hearing. "how much justice can you afford on a truck drivers living?" Most likely you will be pushed into a corner to show remorse for your actions and take responsibility for the accident or else face harsher punishment even if you felt it really was not your fault.
You say you make an above average living (this to me would imply you make more than 50-60k per year) but you rarely work 70 hours a week and sleep in you own bed each night and make breakfast each morning. If this is true I am sure many truckers on this forum would like to know how to reach your level. Most OTR drivers are making about 60-70K but they are working about 70 hours a week to do it. I am sure they would all love to know how you can show them a better way of same amount of money in less time.
I would expect for true professional drivers who work as company drivers as if it was their own business to be able to gradually climb the ranks within the company as the company expands or roles open up. Drivers who consistently try to save the company money on fuel and lost productivity should be cross trained to learn other skills within the company. Bring him in for a few days and let him learn from risk management and accounting and safety departments. Over time if the driver looks to be a good candidate to fill a position then give him a shot. Many guys just need an opportunity to prove they can.
The reference to "beg" or "raped" was not to be taken literally. Many drivers are paid per mile tho if they do the math they will find they really only make about $15-$18 per hour. I do feel for as much time and risk as I and other truck drivers are putting in truckers are not paid no where near what they should be paid. Truckers made more money 30 years ago than they do today, that should tell you something is wrong with this industry. I might as well just go get 2 full time warehouse jobs making $15-$18 an hour. You would make the same amount of money in the same amount of hours roughly. At least then I could be home every night long enough to see my family a few minutes each day and sleep in my bed and not have to worry about going to prison for an accident that might not have been been my fault.
The "freedom and independence" you speak of is an illusion for me. I don't have freedom if I am driving 70 hours a week, I don't have independence if I am dependent on my company or broker to keep providing loads or else I don't make money.
Real freedom and independence is where you own your own fleet of trucks (you run when and where you want, but the side effect is then you absorb alot of risk when things go wrong) and have your own freight contract (IE: independence to work on your terms bound by the terms you agreed to in your contract with the shipper). You don't rely on a broker for loads, the broker will want some control in the deal and that is not independence to me.
Many single truck O/O's talk of this freedom and independence. The truth is single truck O/O are just buying themselves a job (much like 7-11 franchisees). They are fooling themselves if they think they are a BOSS. A real BOSS does not trade his time for money, A BOSS hires others to work for him instead. You start getting into BOSS territory when you own multiple trucks and hire your own drivers and negotiate your own freight contracts.
I respect the fact that you made the attempt to make a serious reply even if we don't agree. I can handle a disagreement. I am not sensitive to disagreement. Trolls will be treated accordingly.Last edited: Sep 1, 2018
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Don't send me your going away present yet... I am not ready to leave yet...
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I see this thinking on this forum and it always makes me laugh. I don't have any driving experience yet so I can't really comment on that, but I've got plenty of experience working 6 12 hour days a week in a manufacturing/warehousing environments. The physical toll that work, those hours, places on your body can't be compared to 70 hours sitting in an air conditioned truck, listening to the radio. It's ridiculous.haz-matguru Thanks this.
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Oh, and try "climbing the ranks" at your warehouse jobs, let me know how that works out, lol.
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