Shots fired at fuel island. Who’s at fault here?

Dumdriver · Sep 16, 2018

TankerYankr said: ↑

A few years back I was fueling and washing my windshield and side glass, I was just finisihing up the side glass when the driver behind me came up and started yelling and cussing me out.

Now mind you he had pulled up while I was just finishing my last piece of glass, the nozzles where still in the tank and clicked off about the time he pulled up. I didn't say a word to him, just proceeded to top of the passinger tank, then walked around the truck to finish the other tank when he got within 10 to 12" inches of me and was yelling how he was going to kick my ### for taking too long and that I should wash the windows elsewhere.

Since he was invading my space and threatening me I calmly pulled the nozzle out and hosed him with fuel, I then pulled my zippo out. didn't light it but just held it up, and told him to walk away, far away.

He got in truck and backed out and pulled out the drive.

I figured that the police would be called so I pulled out finished my transaction and parked. About a half hour later nothing going on so I left, never heard anything about it.
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Lol. Cool story

Dumdriver · Sep 16, 2018

TIMPTE 527 said: ↑

Circumstantial evidence does. When 97% of drivers are doing this it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what he was doing. Why do you think the guy the guy behind was so angry.
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Because people are just angry. You’ve never seen someone try to pick a fight with someone for no other reason than they’re pissed off? Of course you have, we ALL have seen it. Plenty of times.

And “circumstantial evidence” just isn’t enough to either shoot someone, or to get shot!!!

Like I said, nowhere that I’ve read, says he was taking a break at the pumps.

Grumppy · Sep 16, 2018

TIMPTE 527 said: ↑

Circumstantial evidence does. When 97% of drivers are doing this it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what he was doing. Why do you think the guy the guy behind was so angry.
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There was a quote from the CDL Life magazine which stated that driver #2 (in the rear truck) thought that driver #1 was "taking too long" at the pump. That is the only report of why this happened. I have no way to verify whether its an accurate report or not, I have to assume that it is fact at this point.
However, this could have been due to anything. Again, I must give some credibility that the report is fact. But..... there could be a million reasons why this happened but again, I have to assume that driver 1 was "taking too long" at the pump.
To go further, no where... does any report say that the driver was taking his break or getting lunch or hanging out in the restaurant, etc. The report (which we have to assume is fact at this point) only says #2 thought #1 was taking too long at the pump. he could have been checking his oil, washing his windows, getting DEF etc.

But, I will say that regardless of what brought this on, in the end, driver 2 approached driver 1, argued with him, walked back to his truck, produced a gun & driver 1 shot driver 2 in self defense. Witness's, audio & video provides proof of this.

Rn8806 · Sep 16, 2018

Pumpkin Oval Head said: ↑

Would you be driver #1 or driver #2? In the above scenario?
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Driver #3 firearm out assessing situation. ?Was guy legal to carry.i am in every state I run in

Espressolane · Sep 16, 2018

Think this is a case of stupid out of control.

mem · Sep 16, 2018

Tirepass claims another victim.

STexan · Sep 16, 2018

TripleSix said: ↑

This is the effect of all the trucking industry propaganda about there being such a shortage of drivers that they will allow any swinging dingleberry into the business. Dumb down the testing, put electronic cattleprods and cameras in a truck, have some college kid sit at a desk and monitor them, and stupidproof trucking enough to make it so Stupid can get a job.

Is it no wonder that the vast majority of 'trucker issues' are so absurd that a group of first graders can figure out the solutions? Ask a 7 year old about parking on the fuel island and the 7 year old will ask you why should you park on the fuel island if you're not fueling? Explain to a 7 year old about taking your 30 minute break DURING peak times in the fuel island. See, this whole story, this whole ordeal was caused because our industry is the last resort for all losers and worthless morons. Why are they pushing for hiring morons and losers in the industry? To lower wages, why else?

The problems you all are seeing in the truck stops, at shippers and receivers, etc... is a direct result of the mass influx of morons and idiots, and the stupifying of the job so that a braindead now qualifies. The stuff that stumps a truck driver could be solved by the average 5 year old. No, not the driving. Driving is the E-A-S-Y part. If you tried to explain the HOS to a 7 year old, would it make any sense? NO!

"Oh, Little Johnny...see there were drivers that couldn't stop when they got tired and they fell asleep at the wheel. So to make sure that this doesn't happen, the DOT created the current HOS. It's SAFER this way"

Well, see...there's actually a shortage of drivers and..."
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Somehow I doubt any of these idiots were “new age drivers”. The kind of driver who gets impatient at the drop of a hat and threatens the offspring of the one who took 80 seconds too long before moving on is the ####y driver who’s been out here a year too long. I’ve been out here a long ### time and I’ve never seen an obvious new driver throw a tantrum like this. This sort of behavior (either party in this case) comes from “seasoned drivers” who have reached a point where they think their #### don’t stink and everybody else should just bow down to them. And frankly, I’m more disgusted with these “too good to associate with the typical driver” drivers than I am the newer drivers.

haz-matguru · Sep 16, 2018

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TankerYankr said: ↑

A few years back I was fueling and washing my windshield and side glass, I was just finisihing up the side glass when the driver behind me came up and started yelling and cussing me out.

Now mind you he had pulled up while I was just finishing my last piece of glass, the nozzles where still in the tank and clicked off about the time he pulled up. I didn't say a word to him, just proceeded to top of the passinger tank, then walked around the truck to finish the other tank when he got within 10 to 12" inches of me and was yelling how he was going to kick my ### for taking too long and that I should wash the windows elsewhere.

Since he was invading my space and threatening me I calmly pulled the nozzle out and hosed him with fuel, I then pulled my zippo out. didn't light it but just held it up, and told him to walk away, far away.

He got in truck and backed out and pulled out the drive.

I figured that the police would be called so I pulled out finished my transaction and parked. About a half hour later nothing going on so I left, never heard anything about it.
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Why would you waste good diesel on an arsehole' like that?

TripleSix · Sep 16, 2018

STexan said: ↑

Somehow I doubt any of these idiots were “new age drivers”. The kind of driver who gets impatient at the drop of a hat and threatens the offspring of the one who took 80 seconds too long before moving on is the ####y driver who’s been out here a year too long. I’ve been out here a long ### time and I’ve never seen an obvious new driver throw a tantrum like this. This sort of behavior (either party in this case) comes from “seasoned drivers” who have reached a point where they think their #### don’t stink and everybody else should just bow down to them. And frankly, I’m more disgusted with these “too good to associate with the typical driver” drivers than I am the newer drivers.
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I am trying to figure out what in my post gave you the idea that I was saying something about young drivers or "new age drivers." This nonsense started 30 years ago, and picked up steam 20 years ago. I think the first time I heard of some non driver using the term "super trucker" was in 2005. Years ago, they'd refer to them as "Hero." And what you call 'snowflakes,' was a sidewalk sissy.

hagarcobra · Sep 16, 2018

TripleSix said: ↑

This is the effect of all the trucking industry propaganda about there being such a shortage of drivers that they will allow any swinging dingleberry into the business. Dumb down the testing, put electronic cattleprods and cameras in a truck, have some college kid sit at a desk and monitor them, and stupidproof trucking enough to make it so Stupid can get a job.

Is it no wonder that the vast majority of 'trucker issues' are so absurd that a group of first graders can figure out the solutions? Ask a 7 year old about parking on the fuel island and the 7 year old will ask you why should you park on the fuel island if you're not fueling? Explain to a 7 year old about taking your 30 minute break DURING peak times in the fuel island. See, this whole story, this whole ordeal was caused because our industry is the last resort for all losers and worthless morons. Why are they pushing for hiring morons and losers in the industry? To lower wages, why else?

The problems you all are seeing in the truck stops, at shippers and receivers, etc... is a direct result of the mass influx of morons and idiots, and the stupifying of the job so that a braindead now qualifies. The stuff that stumps a truck driver could be solved by the average 5 year old. No, not the driving. Driving is the E-A-S-Y part. If you tried to explain the HOS to a 7 year old, would it make any sense? NO!

"Oh, Little Johnny...see there were drivers that couldn't stop when they got tired and they fell asleep at the wheel. So to make sure that this doesn't happen, the DOT created the current HOS. It's SAFER this way"

Well, see...there's actually a shortage of drivers and..."
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You got that right six. Look at all the posters on here who are on probation or looking for a way to cheat on drug testing. All losers who think trucking is thier career of choice. Or last chance. Just more Jack-##### out here screwing it up. When you take the professionalism out of trucking what can you expect.

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