columbia crank no start unusual problem

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  1. hambone1000

    hambone1000 Bobtail Member

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    have a columbia 14l detroit ddec v died on highway, towed to shop would not start. scan showed injectors high current. code 31 which is jaake brake code. If you connect ecm leads in battery box to isolated battery not grounded to frame engine starts and runs. If you touch battery positive or negetive leads to isolated battery truck dies. (unhooked altenator belt, leads, ground, no change.associated with code 61 trouble shooting) has anybody had this issue?
     
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  3. pmdriver

    pmdriver Road Train Member

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    1 bad battery, the cells collapsed and shorting out
     
  4. hambone1000

    hambone1000 Bobtail Member

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    we replaced 2 batterys of 4 will try other 2 thanks for reply
     
  5. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I have always replaced all of the batterys if I have one shorted out or bad.
     
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  6. hambone1000

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    we just replaced all batteries a few months ago but had 2 extras (new) in shop and gave them a shot. to run the truck we have just run till voltage gets down to 12.1 then switch battery.have used all batteries (1 isolated each time) to run truck
     
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  7. nikmirbre

    nikmirbre Road Train Member

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    Im not very familiar with electrical issues..... but, I THINK I'm having battery issues. I replaced them under warranty in Jan this year and been everything been good. Now that its cold they seem to drain quick....its starts sluggish. Same issue before I had them replaced. After driving my truck and ending for the day, Cant I undo the negative side of the batteries and and in the morning hook back up and if it starts up then I don't have a battery issue... or if it struggles then I do??
     
  8. QUALITYTRUCK

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    Check all power and ground connections (starter, frame, posts). Have batteries load tested. If good, then check for starter drawing too much. Should not drop more than around 2 volts while cranking.
     
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  9. nikmirbre

    nikmirbre Road Train Member

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    yeah I believe my starter is fine. Although I will do as you suggested as far as checking the ground connections. When I started it only drops 1 volt while starting, not everytime but 12.6 is the lowest I've seen. I had it towed a few weeks ago for blown turbo...I sat on side of road for about 4 hours waiting on tow truck. Had it towed about 60 miles to my mechanic and they had to tow it from the rear...so had the ignition on while towing it....batteries were dead when I arrived at shop. It was probably 50 degrees...
     
  10. QUALITYTRUCK

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    How much oil did you lose when the turbo "blew"? Sorry, but I have to bring this tough question into the mix. I own a shop for 20 years and have seen similar situations with very bad results.
     
  11. nikmirbre

    nikmirbre Road Train Member

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    Not much at all..... idk how to link it but I have a thread on here called “ what makes a turbo blow” with some pictures.
     
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