I was wrong. E-logs save lives

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by rank, Dec 19, 2018.

  1. againstthewind

    againstthewind Road Train Member

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    arent the outlaw logbook cheating drivers really the company drivers driving around the parking lot keeping it under 5mph so they dont get kicked on the driveline?
     
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  3. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    Look. I agree the entire FMCSA compliance system related to HOS rules and elogs and multitudes of exemptions for this group and that group is messed up on many levels. But you have to admit rates are up, and drivers and carriers are making money if they want to tow the line. Drive your old wore out POS if it makes you feel good and if you can keep it running.

    In spite of elogs, I’m making money and making delivery appointments. I understand elogs are more problematic for some than others. But they’re here to stay. Figure out how to run your business with them or find another line of work that doesn’t have government intrusion and regulatory requirements.
     
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  4. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    Are you talking to me?

    Because my trucks are old but not wore out. The DOM or MY is no indication of the age of the parts on a truck. They make new parts every day and if I'm going to buy new parts, it will be a for a truck that's worth something. Not some worthless, plastic, disposable, emission laden POS with an engine full of soot and an ABS light on. Both of the trucks I drive are worth more today than when I bought them in 2006 and 2013. Not to mention an old "POS" will out work a new POS all day every day.

    The only real challenge is dealing with these 20-30 year old DOT cops that seem to have been instructed to write tickets on any vehicle with a paper log inside
     
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  5. stayinback

    stayinback Road Train Member

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    They Were up....If you don't follow the ups n downs of the freight market, No need to reply
    Don't be too sure about that,
     
  6. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    You are correct. Without the Braindeads, they won’t serve a purpose. Automated trucks of any sort will make the Braindeads obsolete overnight. As soon as that happens elogs are gone.
    There will always be a call for drivers. There won’t be a need for steeringwheelholders.
     
  7. tucker

    tucker Road Train Member

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    If I learned one thing from Greg it’s that these elog exempt trucks will soon be uninsurable.
    The log books may pass a roadside inspection but if there’s an accident then a lawyer can easily show the logbook doesn’t match the cell phone pings and coffee club purchases.
    Jury’s eat that up and will award millions.
     
  8. stayinback

    stayinback Road Train Member

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    Couple things.....
    First off- We "paper" Guys don't put ourselves in that position (Most of us have several decades of experience and can read and react to just about anything with confidence)

    Find the last "Accident" Showing a Paper Logger that was at Fault-and Breakfast is on me-(Other than that 72 year old driving wrong way in Bloomington)

    We are Different-In Many Ways- Hard to describe- We Get the Job Done-Safely and No excuses- we Watch out For our safety as well as other motorists we share the road with-

    I Guess If I have to explain it more in depth- You'll Never Understand.
     
  9. Long FLD

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    Log out before you drop your truck off anytime someone else will be driving it. Problem solved.
     
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  10. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    wrong. doesn't work
     
  11. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    The current HOS rules have no flexibility built into them so it sounds like your issue is with the rules and not how they’re recorded.
     
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