Needing some log help

There is a perfect legal option THANKS

 

11 hours driving, 15 to unload, 10 hour break. It's just paper.

 

Heres how I do this regularly, I'll take 2 hours sleeper, 15 to 30 minutes for loading or unload, then show 8 hours sleeper and all is well. you just have to watch that 14 hour window.

 

Watch your time stamps and the rest they onloy know what you tell them, I use the split to match the time stamos when need be.

 

Unless your company specifically prohibits split breaking (which it sounds like in this case), then LogsRus got it right, depending on how long you were off duty before your 15 minute interruption. If it was at least 2 but less than 8, then you go to the SLEEPER for 8 and when you wake up the only thing against you will now be the 15 minutes that you were on duty for "unloading". If you were waiting for at least 8 hours (and they should be in the sleeper to count) then got interrupted, you go off duty or sleeper for 2 hours and when you're done, you begin your new 14 hour calculation at the end of the 8 hour break (AS LONG AS IT WAS IN THE SLEEPER!!!).

 

Did I teach you the (AS LONG AS IT WAS IN THE SLEEPER) L.O.L. I do that all the time. Even though I don't see why DOT says your 10 hour break can be broken up between lines 1 & 2 but to split 8 hours must be in the sleeper
But we have to follow the rules, HUH

 

Ok. Suppose I get to a conignee at 2100 hours, as my appointment requires. Prior to my arrival, I was assigned dispatch to pick up a load at 0800, the next morning. I accept the dispatch, under the proviso that all goes well at the current consignee. My dispatcher/company closes shop at 1730. No more contact until 0800, except for emergencies (and, even then, you'd be lucky to get an answer). The current consignee doesn't give me a dock until 2230. They don't start the unloading proccess until 0015. Finish by 0100. Immedeatly, I'm asked to remove myself from the premesis. I go to the nearest truckstop (half an hour away). No available parking. I'm, currently, out of hours. I proceed to the new shipper. They let me in, and assign a dock for morning loading. It is, now 0300. I go to sleeper berth. At 0500, they begin loading me, finishing at 0700. Now, I gotta drop a deuce. I'm done at 0730, sign the BOL, and ask if I can sleep for a few hours. The shipper refuses. Now, I am forced to drive 30 miles to the nearest available parking (a VA. rest area). I sleep for three hours, wake up to go drop another deuce, and, upon return to my rig, I find a DOT officer at my door. You all know where this leads, right? I ask him to sign my log, with notation of his badge #, and where he can be readily contacted in case of emergency. He threatens me with jail, and a tow bill if I don't "get that P.O S. off state property", all the while writing me up for HOS violation? WHEW! I think I got it all in there. I'm no futune teller. But, IT happenes, "once in a while." (sarc.) I fully understand the purpose of the regs. But, shouldn't there be a point at which we should be allowed to accomodate everyone? Quite frankly, I could make a "decent living" at home, while punching a timeclock. If I'm gonna risk my life, just the same as John Q. Public, on our nations deteriorated infrastructure, I intend to make sure it's worth my while. As, carriers/shippers/receivers/law enforcement, certainly, aren't gonna give a crap about my wifes hip replacement/ two month old kid's helichopper ride when he had pneumonia/my cholesterol meds/ad infinitum/ad nauseum. Not to mention the stresses incurred by the plethora of ignorant drivers who give you an hourly opportunity to kill them with their careless driving. At what point do we, as professional drivers, take a stand against, not only the unrealistic regulations, but against the few unprofessional drivers who's ACTIONS continue to advocate the need for such inflexible regs? And, by the way. If you work in the logging industry/oil industry/farming industry/ etc., the regs don't readily apply to you. It's ok for a log truck, with a driver who's been awake for 19 hours to barrel down the interstate right next to your wife & kids in a truck loaded with about 90,000 lbs of lumber, and which likely needs a new set of brakes after just a couple trips to the mill. I've done it. And, you can see it happening on The Discovery Channel, as we speak. Agricultural is the rule. Now, tell me it's not about money.

 

Wow you really ran over though. I understand your situation but you must understand if you would of been in an accident no fault of yours you could of been held very responsible for that accident. If someone got killed you could spend time in prison. If someone was hurt your career would definately be over meaning no CDL for so many years. So regardless of the regulations drivers must undertand to run legal at all times. It's not fair for your employeer to give you loads and not be available if something happens or if you can't deliver they might be understanding when it's tight runs like that. Customers if communcation "sometimes" can adjust the time. Maybe in the future get the customer # and see if you can contact them and adjust the time for you to be legal.

Asking the officer to sign your log book was the reason you got the tude back from him.

There is no flexibility to the regulations except advherse conditions unfortunately. I see your point I really do but you have to understand drivers would be using that as an "exscuse" all the time. The other point is after 14 hours of us being awake the body is usually tired/not thinking straight anymore.

Good luck and hey remember you drivers can write to DOT on how you feel etc. Voicing your opinion just to us peons wont do much good, you must voice your opinion via letter/e-mail to the FMCSA . HINT HINT
Teh

 

You did it to yourself . You accept a pickup only 11 hours after arriving at the consignee . When did you expect to get a legal break ? You know you're going to need a break not long after unloading . The smart thing to have done would have been to not accepted the 0800 appointment . You can talk to dispatch while off duty . You could have called them in the morning for another load .

 

Forced dispatch. If we refuse loads, we get pushed to the bottom of the list. Could be days, or upwards of a week before the next load. You all know the politics. If you don't, you're lucky. Change companies? In todays economy? Right. Again, The new assignment was good for a break, so long as the customer would have been expeditious. They, usually, are. Hence the timing of the assignment. My rant is regarding the officer. He didn't care what the regs were. Nor, that I couldn't move due to them. How is it possible that we can be fined for adhering to the regs in one case, then, again be fined for following them? The point? Follow the money.