A thread that will never die

Discussion in 'CB Radio Forum' started by Gadfly, Jan 18, 2019.

  1. Night Stalker10

    Night Stalker10 Road Train Member

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    I still find this interesting... usually the squeal sounds from multiple signals entering the receiver of your radio, isn't because your coax is or isn't cut a certain length. We are talking about the signals that the antenna is picking up and feeding through the coax to your radio. Of course the coaxes job is to transfer RF signals from point A to point B, not act as a filter. Now on the transmit side, getting the voltage and current to cancel each other out with the 180 degree phase, is important. I'm always open to learn something new.
     
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  3. rabbiporkchop

    rabbiporkchop Road Train Member

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    I don't understand how it works but I've grown accustomed to not hearing the squealing sound that most people take for granted.
     
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  4. Ridgeline

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    it works because the signals are in phase. I would venture that you guys can learn a bit on how it works by investigating how phase noise reduction on antenna systems work, it can show you how you get nulled signals out of the system to hear long distance signals.
     
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  5. Slowmover1

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    I’ve looked at that device type. MFJ-1025.

    Interesting how just bouncing around reading brings up yet more questions, ideas and $$ to spend (ha!).

    (I get that you’re pointing towards a discussion).

    EDIT: the DX ENGINEERING NCC-2 Operators Manual has a decent description. Receive Antenna Phasing Controller.

    Looking elsewhere I guess I’d have unearth my deceased uncle who spent a career at Ball Aerospace. Things get .pdf tech-ie in a hurry.

    Remember when phased array radar was new enough (threatening enough) to be part of the SALT negotiations?

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  6. Night Stalker10

    Night Stalker10 Road Train Member

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    They have the MFJ 1026 too. It’s actually a nice unit to have, especially if you have bad electrical noise in your neighborhood. The only downside is that you need two Hf antennas to use it. Of course that’s usually not a problem for most stations, but I have only one antenna up right now. Out of all the products that MFJ makes, somehow I missed this one. Thanks for mentioning it.
     
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  7. Slowmover1

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    Should we talk Craigsez into one and make him busier down the highway than a one-armed Canadian paperhanger?

    Get the Rig Expert involved, too.

    (Hi, Craig!!)

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  8. Night Stalker10

    Night Stalker10 Road Train Member

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    Lol, there you go....the poor guy is finally learning to master the antenna analyzer, and now you want to send him down another path.

    Speaking of Craig, I haven’t said anything, but looking at his avatar, I believe he is really Hugh Rowlands (polar bear) from the ice road truckers tv show.
     
  9. Gadfly

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    My original purpose in posting this thread was to illustrate that, when its all said and done, coax length is more like a placebo. Using the amateur-invented screwdriver that covers 3.5 thru 30 MHZ, one can see that having to have 8-10, or more coaxes, "cut" to each band, and in lengths specific to that band or frequency is ineffective, and more than that, impractical at best! Where would one PUT all those lengths of coax, and how would one switch each one into play on each frequency. Yet, amateur operators and commercial HF operators operate multiple HF frequencies with ONE coax of no particular length: just whatever it takes to get from the rear bumper up to the radio in the truck cab. For ME, that's about 7 feet.:) Properly set up with a 50 ohm feedpoint matching coil, my antenna works ALL those bands, including 27-28 MHZ with an average SWR of 1.2 X 1. I've worked the USSR, Europe, South America. I used to talk to "Mike" in Barcelona, Spain on 14.245 USB almost every afternoon from the mobile, 100 watts "barefoot".
    It just seems like a lot of wasted effort and a lot of imaginary "theory" that is also wasted trying to get that o-o-o-o-o-n-e- e eensy weensie little extra watt by snipping coax and worrying about VF. And then one starts to mention "ladder line" to a coupler and dipole to muddy the works!!!!:p
     
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  10. craig_sez

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    Been trying to understand the phase on my rig expert analyzer..Cant seem to find anything....I may not be typeing in the correct wording in my search but i always end up ginding stuff on co phaseing antenna...
    Bugs the effing crap outta me...I see it change on different freq but i cant even find out if s higher or lower # is better...
     
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  11. craig_sez

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    No im not him...
     
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