Eld Vs Paper

And it can be done on a box, which is something all these advocates say can't happen.

 

Those doing that have a respect for others problem. Nothing to do with paper or electronics.

 

I am far from a new breed driver, but am an old coot.lol. We who are from the old school ways of trucking. Have a hard time, or just refuse to accept the diluge of electronic, and technology that has become the norm in the industry. I do not have an issue if one likes, and uses the ELD, technology, or electronics to aid them in the job. Choices and being an individual is what makes this country great. Just as i own a fleet of 1999 Peterbilt 379's that are ELD exempt, i also haul my own freight (cattle) so this also exempts me from an ELD. I have a well maintained fleet where every two years i replace engines. Those who chose to run paper logs are not trying to do anything more than make a living. I have a clean driving record, no accidents, 2 million miles, 25 years experience, and love my job, and take it seriously. I have never fallen asleep behind the wheel, took any type of drugs ever. I am not saying i have always been legal in the sense of how i ran, and logged. By this is semantics of federal laws , and no one was worse for the wear.
The ELD as data , and reports have shown has not made the industry any easier, or safer. I watch the news, read trucking industry journals, and so forth. There are still accidents with drivers who use an ELD, for what ever reason. I believe the ELD has made it harder on drivers as it pertains to parking, shippers/receivers making you leave the premises, even with the exemption for a driver to drive to a safe place. before ELD's as to the parking issue at travel plazas was that drivers were tstrating to park and fill up the spaces at 3pm. So those who drove for 11 hours, or back in the day their 10 hours. Had a hard time finding a spot to park.

 

The ongoing debate as to trip planning (work or not). In my years of driving OTR. We cannot predict construction delays, accidents, weather, or weather related highway closures. Look at this years winter storms that have closed many highways, across the nation. I can plan all i want, map out the route, and such. It does not matter if any of the above conditions happen. I have never trip planned in all my years, and have never been late with a pick up or delivery. Being able to think out of the box in finding alternative routes, or being able to wait out the incident, and run my *** off to get the job done.

 

After talking to a lot of drivers (new and seasoned), I noticed this trend... even the best laid plans can be foiled quickly. Fortunately, we allow PC so that helps a lot.

For our company, we use both ELD and paper.

 

Paperlogs no doubt. More freedom is nicer.

I get it, you love ELDs. Thats great. I'm not here to tell you how to work.

However,

The unnecessary stress of the day not going as planned only intensifies with elogs. I know many of you company drivers love Elogs because you drive newer fancy trucks. Your trucks hardly break down. And when they do, some of you are still being paid.

Also megacarriers have more leverage than smaller operators, so shippers and receivers take megacarriers more seriously.

The rest of us struggle with older trucks and downtime and that can ruin our entire week. ELDs have only made problems worse and cut wages.

I understand many of you take joy that o/o's won't have the advantage over megacorps anymore. But that's just crabs in a bucket mentality.

Megacarriers are liars when they say their intentions to push ELDs are to promote safety. Its was never about safety. The ELD mandate has made roads less safe. Its a mistake to assume the law always maximizes safety.

Whenever legislation is attempted to improve fair HOS rules these Megacorps are nowhere to be seen. ELD mandate is a cash grab for the wealthier who benefits the most with bigger pockets. The rest of us are stomped by the bigger guy.

 

How did I miss this thread?
They need paper because they lie and cheat.

 

When I hear arguments like this I just shake my head. All it is saying is "I want to break the law, and I want it harder for the cops to know I'm breaking the law." Well too bad.

Now if you were to champion sensable HOS laws that's something to get behind, but saying you lose money by being forced to follow existing law.. Well too bad.

P.S. If you drive such a piece of junk that breakdowns are a constant issue, get it off the road before something breaks and kills someone....

 

Do you want your version of sensible hos or mine? Depends who you're talking to what sensible hos is, some people can't drive for 8 hours on end and some of us could drive for 18 hours straight with nothing but bathroom stops. Maybe it's time people realize government doesn't always know what's best, in fact it almost never does. You can drive 20 hours straight without hurting or killing somebody go ahead, you can't drive 4 hours without a half hour nap do it that way then, but no now I'm the nutcase because I don't want you telling me how many hours I can work.

 

You can work as many hours as you want. What you are limited on is how long you can be out on public roads. And that has nothing to do with ELD vs. paper..
Again, if you want HOS changed, then fight to change HOS, don't fight to make it easier to lie about your HOS.