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filltheneed · Dec 14, 2018

michigantruckerb said: ↑

Mid west, such as ILINMI to MSARTN and back.

Currently that’s the best money you’ll get. A lot of good paying loads are coming out of Tupelo, MS, light loads of foam. They will pay $2 a mile at the lighter side. And going to MS from up north will always pay you over $2 a mile. Depending on your negotiation you can average $2.40-$2.60 a mile on average of 2400 miles a week without tolls/mountains etc at the moment.
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Tks for taking the time to post all this great info!
Very cool of you!

whoopNride · Dec 14, 2018

Scooter Jones said: ↑

Me thinks a lot of folks will be back to hauling for under $2.00 a mile in the near future. I hope the guys who have jumped into this in the last year or so have socked away some cash.
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It is already going on in the southeast. The rates have really crashed, people are gobbling up 1.50 a mile freight.

Proud my stuff is paid for and my insurance is cheap. Looks like a lot of time off this winter...

TallJoe · Dec 15, 2018

Not too long ago, $1.10 a mile + Fuel Surcharge was spoken as a sucker rate. I see that the threshold now is declared on this forum @ 2 dol/mile. Quite a change in the span of a few years. Must be two things: US Dollar losing its value or this industry is becoming more lucrative.Still, @ 2 dol a mile lots of people can make a living, if they're willing to run over 80K-100K miles a year and they will. Attrition threshold I see at about 1.5 a mile - money starts to run out quickly.

michigantruckerb · Dec 15, 2018

whoopNride said: ↑

It is already going on in the southeast. The rates have really crashed, people are gobbling up 1.50 a mile freight.

Proud my stuff is paid for and my insurance is cheap. Looks like a lot of time off this winter...
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whoopNride said: ↑

It is already going on in the southeast. The rates have really crashed, people are gobbling up 1.50 a mile freight.

Proud my stuff is paid for and my insurance is cheap. Looks like a lot of time off this winter...
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Southeast is spectacular to what Dallas is trying to push. Less than dollar a mile to Minnesota. Smh

Rubber duck kw · Dec 19, 2018

michigantruckerb said: ↑

Southeast is spectacular to what Dallas is trying to push. Less than dollar a mile to Minnesota. Smh
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What the hell, you're better off bouncing somewhere at that rate.

gekko1323 · Dec 25, 2018

michigantruckerb said: ↑

Well, a broker can quote a customer $10,000 on 20 miles with a FSC of $2000, but if a truck settles for $450 bucks, that’s the trucks fault.

I see a lot of brokers that keep lowering prices down by even $25. This is what makes me angry during my week. 70% of my loads are from direct customer or brokers I’ve worked with for years and years. Dry vans AVG $2.60/mile now all miles and reefer is at $3.45/mile.

But the 30% of spot market rates by the type of brokers you mention is the loads I don’t even wish to negotiate anymore due to their greed. Instead I write their names and numbers down, and when the market changes I quote them more than they will ever quote a customer. It’s different when I do it than a regular owner operator because I’m in control of 90ish trucks. (All trucks together combined with other dispatch manager and dispatchers).

Heck, other day a customer offered a load from Dallas, TX to Monette, AR.

I believe it was around 350 miles (can be wrong, but close), anyway the customer wants to be AROUND $1500, but I seen 3 diff brokers posting it for $1,000, $900, and $850.

Needles to say I didn’t have a truck for it in the area, however yes I see the greed, and it is frustrating when most owner operators don’t make as much money as people think due to overhead costs, and this isn’t adding time spent on the road and extra work you have to perform besides just driving, while a broker can sit in his office and laugh later and think he is smart. I fully understand you.
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Just curious, how much does hazmat pay? And do you do flatbed?

michigantruckerb · Dec 30, 2018

gekko1323 said: ↑

Just curious, how much does hazmat pay? And do you do flatbed?
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People tend to believe hazmat is suppose to pay this insane amount of money per load. But truth is hazmat will pay average of $300-$500 a load more than average however this is year round, and also out of dead places, plus when you add up doing those loads 2-3 times a week it turns into 6 digits figures in the long run at the end of the year.

For example, if hazmat paid extra $300 on 4 loads during a week above other loads, that’s $1200 a week, and 4 times a week pays off your monthly brand new truck and trailer.

Most drivers think one load should pay them their house price. But most hazmat we do is for example like paint, or nail polish, etc.

michigantruckerb · Dec 30, 2018

Rubber duck kw said: ↑

What the hell, you're better off bouncing somewhere at that rate.
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Of course, they been trying to push that. Luckily for my guy I got him TVs out of there. Which pay more due to insurance.

sangtito · Mar 6, 2019

michigantruckerb said: ↑

Well, a broker can quote a customer $10,000 on 20 miles with a FSC of $2000, but if a truck settles for $450 bucks, that’s the trucks fault.

I see a lot of brokers that keep lowering prices down by even $25. This is what makes me angry during my week. 70% of my loads are from direct customer or brokers I’ve worked with for years and years. Dry vans AVG $2.60/mile now all miles and reefer is at $3.45/mile.

But the 30% of spot market rates by the type of brokers you mention is the loads I don’t even wish to negotiate anymore due to their greed. Instead I write their names and numbers down, and when the market changes I quote them more than they will ever quote a customer. It’s different when I do it than a regular owner operator because I’m in control of 90ish trucks. (All trucks together combined with other dispatch manager and dispatchers).

Heck, other day a customer offered a load from Dallas, TX to Monette, AR.

I believe it was around 350 miles (can be wrong, but close), anyway the customer wants to be AROUND $1500, but I seen 3 diff brokers posting it for $1,000, $900, and $850.

Needles to say I didn’t have a truck for it in the area, however yes I see the greed, and it is frustrating when most owner operators don’t make as much money as people think due to overhead costs, and this isn’t adding time spent on the road and extra work you have to perform besides just driving, while a broker can sit in his office and laugh later and think he is smart. I fully understand you.
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You said dry van avg is $2.60/mile and my dispatch said $2,000 for a load to St. Paul from NOLA (1,200 mile) is a good rate.
So, who do you think is greedy here? The company I lease the truck from (MGR in Illinois) or the broker?

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