i have a CDL and drive local only, can I work another job as long as it is a non driving job

ANY job you do counts against your 70 hours whether it's being a cashier, a car mechanic, a porn star, NFL quarterback, or driving. ANY JOB.

 

Whatever job you work in addition to your driving has to be logged as on duty time.

This applies to work not part of exempt 150 air mile rule.

Now if you are a cement mixer or something like that paid off the time clock with no logs in sight, that does not apply to you.

 

Yes, but to play by the rules means you have to get a 10hr reset before driving the commercial vehicle. Lots of local guys have second jobs but don't report their hours to their primary employer, a DOT no-no.

 

I'm too tired (and lazy) to look this up but I'm pretty certain you're mistaken. The FMCSA has no interest in what you do that does not pertain to a commercial motor vehicle. Is having a second job and then operating a CMV on top of that a great idea? Probably not, but Mr. Roadside Inspector doesn't have a dog in that fight.

 

This is correct although with a "no log" driving job you will get away with it until or if you were to have an accident then you would or could have a problem.

 

Well you might want to look it up next time. From 395.2
On-duty time means all time from the time a driver begins to work or is required to be in readiness to work until the time the driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work. On-duty time shall include:
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(9) Performing any compensated work for a person who is not a motor carrier.

 

I stand corrected. Thanks.

 

I asked an attorney about this accident thing about 2 weeks ago. I also have used it in a what if situation. An HOS violation does not necessarily mean the driver is too tired to drive. I have been out of hours before and was alert. I was reminded what is the difference between working for pay and say chopping up a load of firewood for your own use. Your just as tired. In this situation an attorney is going to have to prove you were exausted and that is why you caused said accident. In the absence of proof it is only a HOS violation. This attorney told me he has seen Judges toss cases because of this lack of proof.

I would never advise a driver to even do house type work all day every day after work. Do what is required. However getting enough rest is absolutely required.

 

Exactly correct. A violation, or absence of one, does not mean you are ready to drive -or not ready to drive. Strict compliance does not always equate to safety.

Yes, a trial attorney will tear apart your personal life to present a case, but they still have the burden of proof, same as a prosecutor, to prove you were fatigued or otherwise unfit for duty because of your second job.

That said, I must advise compliance with the regulations as a safety professional or I could face liability for giving poor advice if something were to happen. In the position I am in as a safety consultant that is called to testify as a subject matter expert from time to time I am very careful to follow the regulations to a T, even logging my office time since I still drive commercial vehicles from time to time providing driver training or delivering new trucks for the dealers I am friendly with.