I have a few questions regarding the laws and regulations for doing custom hauling for some local farmers in my area. Bear with me.
If I am a farmer with farm plates on my truck and am interested in hauling grain or livestock for John Doe, we’ll say it’s a 500 mile round trip haul
1.) Am I required to have commercial plates?
2.) Do I need an E-logging device?
3.) Is the load covered by my farm insurance?
Custom Work laws/regulations hauling for local farmers?
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by KW11, May 3, 2019.
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Yes, depends and no.
1. Caveat....your state may have an Ag exemption check with them
2. Lots of Elog exemptions you probably qualify for one of them......ag commodities, intra state, ‘99 model year truck, short haul are all exemptions.
3. Probably not. Contact your insurer. They will tell you you need cargo insurance and for that I bet they will want you to have operating authority, MC# etc -
Just go cash and only haul what they cant say isn't yours and anything over 150 air miles you need a elog anything under that you dont even need a cdl to drive a semi with ag
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Meanwhile grain haulers have to play by the rules yeahbigguns and exhausted379 Thank this.
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There is nothing wrong with helping a friend out or neighbor out that's what farmers do sorry truckers don't have that brotherhood anymore
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Except that it’s illegal.
Foolish to lose the farm over saving a buddy a few bucks. No I think it’s more about a farmer trying to chisel out a few dollars by running illegally. Have a wreck with your neighbours grain and see if he bails you out of jail and pays the lawsuit that your insurance won’t coverbigguns Thanks this. -
There is nothing illegal about it have you never borrowed a neighbor's truck or trailer before when you are not on the insurance what would have happened if you got in a wreck then it's the same thing helping a neighbor is never illegal
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Are you really that obtuse?
Insurance Companies and lawyers don’t give two snits about neighborhoods. If you borrow a trailer you need a unowned trailer ryder. Nobody is borrowing anything in this scenario and if they were then yes the driver would need to be on the policy, driver abstracts would need to sent to the Ins co etc etc. the insurance company could deny that they are liable and then the OP is open to a law suit. Sorry I’m not putting my farm on the line to help a friend. If he can’t understand that he’s not much of a friend.
However in this case, the op flat out said that he wanted to do custom hauling for neighbors. That means to be legal he needs an MC#, cargo insurance, commercial plates, and a new liability rate probably. That’s an outlay if several thousand dollars probably which means he can’t undercut the real truckers anymore.bigguns, BigCam9670, Ruthless and 2 others Thank this. -
Hey you can do what ever you want but you know how many thousands of loads a day are hauled this way off farms and it wont ever stop most grain only goes about 20 miles max from a farm to who you sell to and dot knows this in my area but it's not what is legal in anything it's what can be proven all he has to say is I'm hauling my xxxx to market to sell it that's why elogs because a mandate so cops can prove who is illegal
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Whatever man. The OP asked a question about what he needed. I’m sure he pretty much knew all about the type of “advice” that you’re offeringBigCam9670 Thanks this.
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