I caught Shipper/Broker trying to sneak into my 53’ Van 20K lbs of extra cargo

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Toocan67, May 12, 2019.

  1. bigtravelr

    bigtravelr Light Load Member

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    Most of the brokers list the actual weight on the rate con. In the fine print they have a line " load may be up to 44,000 lbs" to cover themselves in situations like this.
     
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  3. LoneRanger

    LoneRanger Road Train Member

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    Same thing happened to me.

    17k for $2.6pm ended up being 44k got extra $200 for fuel.

    Short trip 600 miles, not worth losing the load, ended up making it back on another load from same broker.

    Now I’m on load number 3 and I’m getting paid better rates.

    Sometimes worth it to invest.
     
  4. Opendeckin

    Opendeckin Medium Load Member

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    At 1.8 a mile that little stunt of his just cost him over $1600 dollars. Why do people think that all it costs to move a truck is fuel money. This is a business. Start learning how it works if you plan to be in it for any length of time.
     
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  5. olddog_newtricks

    olddog_newtricks Medium Load Member

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    Regardless of cost we don't move freight for free.
     
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  6. brsims

    brsims Road Train Member

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    I agree with the OP, and would've done the same thing.

    If I agree to haul 20k for x money, and you decide to up the weight to 40k for the same money, plan on finding yourself another truck or paying me more. The deal is the deal.

    Too many drivers around here willing to be kicked in the face and ask for another.

    Let's put it in perspective. If I ask a plumber to run 20 foot of line, and when he gets there demand he run another 20 foot for the original price, what is that plumber gonna do? Either laugh in my face or just walk away! Why are we different?

    Some of the responses I read here supporting the continuing abuse of the drivers and industry as a whole feeds my growing hatred of my "peers".
     
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  7. Opendeckin

    Opendeckin Medium Load Member

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    I price every load at max legal gross weight.

    WRONG. It would be equivalent to asking him to run a line the same 20 feet originally agreed upon,but about 1/33 larger in diameter than you had originally agreed upon.

    You don't have to haul this load 1800 miles because it's twice the weight. It won't take you twice as long. It won't cost you twice as much. It makes virtually no difference. Now if the broker knowingly does this he's a dishonest scumbag and I probably wouldn't work with him again. Might even leave him a 1 star review on DAT, But I'm not blowing my weekend load over it and bouncing home 900 miles at a cost over $1600 dollars.
     
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  8. brsims

    brsims Road Train Member

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    Maybe my analogy doesn't work here. And maybe my attitude comes from my particular niche in the industry. My freight typically pays by the hundred weight, so yeah. Contracting for 20,000 and trying to then ship 40,000 IS a bite outta my pocket.

    On the other hand, my customers also pay a 40,000 minimum. So in my case it would be contracting to haul 27,000, and getting loaded with 47,000 at the same rate. Not gonna fly.
     
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  9. bigtravelr

    bigtravelr Light Load Member

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    Everytime I haul by hundred weight I get short pay because the shipper lists the freight lighter on bol than the scale ticket, potatoes
     
  10. LoneRanger

    LoneRanger Road Train Member

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    See here’s the thing, do we lower our rate if freight is less then reported on rate con?

    No

    Think about that.

    It’s a good idea to always quote at maximum weight as said in this thread
     
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  11. brsims

    brsims Road Train Member

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    I do steel haul. Shipper sends the coil weight with the load info. I generally need it at check in to ensure I'm getting the correct coil. Only time it changes is if my check in empty weight is too heavy to legally haul the coil. If that is the case, the shipper usually gives me a lighter coil going to the same customer. The rate for the load remains the same.

    So if the shipper's scale is outta whack, I get a lighter coil for the same money. If the check in scale shows me lighter than I actually am, I can correct it at the guard shack.

    One of the many reasons I love steel haul.
     
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