Why do so many Americans hate European trucks?

I showed you numbers, and you still tell me that they were wrong ?

I don't care what YT videos says, press, dealer, I care what invoice for fuel shows. Sure, if you buy one, put an idiot behind the wheel, then sky is the limit, but a normal driver + demanding job (not flowers around Benelux), and there is no difference. We only sold it because it had 1,3 mil km and was E4. It also caused less problems than E5 Dafs around 750k km. Only 1 injector had to be replaced, two times clutch (once with flywheel), and that's about it.

Now I wouldn't buy one, strong 13 liter is more than enough, and I save more money by having 3 axle truck which is more economical on heavy loads, and I get better rate on it. That doesn't change fact that it was better on fuel than Dafs I have.

 

People had the same complaint here about the 16l volvo. Yet others got good fuel mileage with them. It's all about the driver operating it.

 

I'm really sorry, couldn't find YT videos, had to show you my actuall numbers

 

The company we got the trucks and job from had at some point even Fh16 660 (strongest truck in the world, at the time). That one was thirsty, true, but it also had hub reduction on rear axles. They sold it because most of drivers were so proud of driving 660 hp truck that they were showing off all the time. Which didn't bring good results on fuel. Son of the owner, once he drove it, could get lower numbers than typical 13 liter.

 

Maybe they don't manufacture each part of the system, but they are the ones who select which source will bring them the parts needed. If they select a low quality supplier, I think they are to blame for the problems derivated from those parts (And this comment applies for both Cummins and Paccar).

 

Cummins also is the supplier to Navistar’s new A26

 

I had a friend who, unfortunately, bought a 2009 Volvo VT64T880 (I had to google the designation) several years ago. It had a 16L engine and would pass anything on the highway except for a shop and a fuel stop. That was Volvo's attempt at offering a niche truck to owner operators in north America. It was a huge failure and they quit building them.

 

I think its all relative too. 5 mpg might be the norm for pulling super b's through the mountains, where as that would be considered horrible for 80k lb gross in the prairies.

 

I've heard a lot about Volvos in America (I have some friends in Chicago). I've seen one VNL with cracked dashboard for example - doesn't happen here.

I can only rely on my own experience, and what dealers from Scania and Volvo told me regarding 16 liters - don't go with highest hp output, if you really want, get biger displacement, but lowest hp output. That's the way to go, if you still want to make money. Atleast for standard trailers on 40-44 tons gross weight.

 

Correct.

Mid range is usually built well regarding performance vs fuel economy.

In mb with 580 you still get direct drive gearbox (2.733). 520 can get now fast diff if you want it (2.412)