I've got a 6nz problem.

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by Robnozz, Apr 17, 2009.

  1. Les2

    Les2 Road Train Member

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    Another thing to check is your cab mounts and if its an air ride cab check the shocks and torque arm if it has one.

    I'm sure someone has or you've already ruled out tires, rims, loose wheels, loose hubs and anything else obvious...right?
     
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  3. Robnozz

    Robnozz Bobtail Member

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    Fuel pressure was checked last July, and was around 110 at full throttle, I've got 5232 injector codes so it idles a little rough. Will do the full throttle check with no load and see. And yes stock cam was put in.

    I haven't checked the diffs, but will do that on Monday, if it's a failed bearing wouldn't my rear temps be up?

    Just replaced all 4 airbags under the cab, and sleeper. Couldn't get to the shocks though, I have a chest type headache rack that is in the way. All the wheels are good along with the rubber. The front hubs are tight.

    Thanks for the replys.
     
  4. Mr. Haney

    Mr. Haney Road Train Member

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    Better start watching water level closely. You could have a failed head gasket causing this. If it's blown between two cylinders and not the water jacket.......it could run rough under a load and idle. It would smoke on start but clear up after full water temperature is reached.
     
  5. Robnozz

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    It has been using water. This is kinda what my mechanic was thinking either head gasket or injector cups. I just had an oil sample run, and all was good. Also we did the water bottle test on the overfill tube, and no bubbles.
     
  6. cat from the valley

    cat from the valley Medium Load Member

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    check engine mounts and cab mounts make sure the rubbers r in them
     
  7. 112racing

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    inspect the vibration damper on the crank it maybe comming apart they reccomend replacement at 500,000 miles i know a guy that had one come apart , it vibrated so bad he had the truck towed and was lucky he didn't break the crankshaft
     
  8. 9 Axle

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    Ummmm. How about the vibration damper on the front of the crankshaft?????????????
     
  9. Robnozz

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    How do you go about inspecting it? Mine looks good, no pieces missing.

    I checked all the sleeper and cab bags, torsion bar and front mounts. Nothing wrong there. Motor mounts look good. Rear end plugs are free of any metal pieces.

    So I guess if it holds together from Milwaukee to Houston and back to Milwaukee, I'll be pulling the head off to see whats wrong. Hopefully its just the head gasket.

    Thanks for the suggestions guys.
     
  10. Robnozz

    Robnozz Bobtail Member

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    Okay here's the update. My mechanic opened it up yesterday and found 1 of my injectors has a broken spring. He said that all the cylinders were wet with diesel, more than usual. He pressurized the cooling system up to 15 pounds. We let it sit like that for a couple hours and there was no coolant leaking into the cylinders. He checked it with a borescope. We did find a small coolant leak by the thermostat housing, but not enough to explain all the water Ive been going through.

    Would a broken injector spring cause fuel to leak into the top of the cylinders and cause all the smoke at start up?

    If there is not any water leaking into the cylinders would that mean the head gasket is good?
     
  11. DDS

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    You do not have to have coolant in the cylinder to have the headgasket failed. The head has a relief cut bettween the cylinders, if the gasket fails the compression can go up in the the relief, lowering the compression of that cylinder. I have had engines ran with a failed gasket for three months before it failed to the point of coolant entry. Did you try using a rubber tip air blower and applying shop air to the cylinders with all the injectors out? The last one I did I put pressure to number four and air came up out of cylinder five, The gasket ahad failed between four and five in the relief area.

    And yes a broken injector spring can cause white smoke but how did the tech know that the cylinders were wet with diesel? When you remove the injecotors, even with the fuel rail blowen out, you always get a bit of fuel in the cylinders.
     
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