Needing some log help

Yup , follow the money like these drivers did .

 

Logs is kind of difficult to understand to a newbie like my self..

 

And just remember, taking a break whether it's off duty or berth less then 8 hours will stop the driving clock but not the "on duty" clock on your 14 hour rule.

 

Logs are kind of difficult for anyone to understand some times. Thats why there are so many opinions on it. Be nice if they would just pick one set. Say thats it, no changes, No law suits. Live with it. Then we could move on to the next stupid Fed thing.

 

So i guess the way i understand it... yu can be on duty for a max of 14 hrs. In that 14 hours you can only drive a total of 11 hours. The part that confuses me is the sleeper berth deal. If i go to a shipper for a pickup and they keep me there for 5 hours.. can i put sleeper berth for some of those hours?? I guess when i go to school they will break it down for me hopefully.

 

There are many different way's to do it and get away with it but just have to make sure your not wasting your driving hours so log depending on the situation. The lady in the log department at Prime giggled at me but never gave me a point for my logging because I was really good at it for a newbie. A lot of it wasn't true but looked good because everything matched up according to fuel stop's, drop/hook's/load/unload. I ended up with 4 points through the whole year and that was only simple error and I was tired by going over my 11 and didn't notice it. It's all by trial and error. Hope I'm pointing out a hint here because no one is really allowed to legally show anyone else how to log like that. What ever you do, if you learn how to run two log book's just don't ask the officer which one he would like to see if you ever get pulled over!

 

You can log your 5 hours in the sleeper if you like, however your 14 hours won't reset in less you have 10 hours in a row of off duty/sleeper.

 

Good choice, wait for school to teach you the basics.

The law reads 10 hours, uninterupted. However, you can combine sleeper and off duty, but minimum 8 hours uninterupted in the sleeper. After the 8 you can move log line to off duty, for say meal, shower, or whatever, then start your new 14 after 10 consecutive hours off (sleeper 8, and off duty 2).

In your question, you could use the sleeper for the additional time, but it would not count towards you 10, and the original 14 clock continues. So at this point, if the shipper has the space available on their property, finish the ten hour sleeper at the location, then drive in your new 14.

Hope your not even more confused, but wait till school, then you can really piss off some instructor there from all the confused info you got here. It will all make sense eventually, but you can't over think it, we could go into the split sleeper part and really get you confused.

 

Yea that is why I did not go there.

 

There is some decent info on the Carolina Casualty Insurance Co. website. I can't post a link, but you can google search for it, then click on services, and look down the list for 2005 New Hours of Service Regs. It's a Powerpoint or HTML slideshow that shows logbook entry examples, and I think it reads well. It sounds like current info, if DOT and FMCSA has left this alone for 4 years without changing something again.

When I went through driving school, they really didn't do the logbook any justice at all. I think alot of people were just flat out confused, and I hope that their company trainers will spend some time on it with them. I'd gone over logging with my brother before that, and had a good idea of how they worked, and what DOT and the safety office is looking for (not just time, but also average miles per hour).

The CCIC website has some other useful info if you're willing to click through it. I think it's cool that a truck insurance company is willing to put training info together and leave it open and available to anyone on their website. They insured my brothers company truck, and he had good things to say about 'em.

Hope it helps some, I'll probably be using Driver's Daily Log software when I start running my team truck soon. Good luck and good miles!