So true

And those same truck drivers insist the same government require the truck stops fuel pumps be accurate and all the food they eat is inspected and sanitary.
Irony?

 

How exactly is freedom to determine how many hours I will work today even remotely comparable to dishonesty and health hazard food?

 

Here we go again. Lol. “But doctors can work 24 hours straight” “But people can drive their car as much as they want”.

It’s weird, I’m not monitored 24/7, mine only tracks the hours I’m working. Right now I’m in KC, I know where my truck is at, my log knows where my truck is at, and it knows that the engine is off and it’s not moving. My log has no idea where I’m at or what I’m doing until I get back to my truck to go back to work. Almost like a paper log only I can jump in and drive.

 

I get the reasons why some people don't like them. In reality, it keeps more companies honest and forces them to work harder if they want to try and be deceptive. This happens a lot in life. One person ruins it for an entire group of people.

 

I was pretty dishonest with a paper log. I’m sure I wasn’t the only one in the trucking industry that was lying.

 

Maybe you was. I would never ever consider logging dishonest.

 

It's your life, until somebody else is affected, it's nobody's business how long you were or weren't driving. I've heard all the excuses there is for having HOS, and they're all nothing but gutless yes man excuses from people who dont know how to tell the boss know I'm tired and gonna sleep, call me before 8 hours is up and you're #### is going to be left here. HOS are no longer needed, every communication between driver and dispatch can be easily recorded and they know it, they're not going to tell you to drive tired or be fired. In fact, HOS were never needed, all it would've taken was the drivers for a company to make their own little union and say we're only working x amount of hours or we all quit. If HOS were ever about "safety" they would never be lifted for emergencies, they were also never about "protecting drivers from big mean bosses" or they never would've applied to independent owner operators.

 

So get your argument together with appropriate data and start an activism group. If enough people feel the same way they will join you in your fight. Until that time it comes across as you don’t like the rules associated with a regulated industry so you want them changed. We’re all aware that we’re stepping into a regulated industry, and I imagine the ones that are crying now would’ve really been crying back when you used to have to go to a hearing and let the PUC decide if you could even have authority or not, all while everyone else in the area you want to run in was testifying that your services weren’t needed. When I was in Hawaii I got a taste of the good old days, the owner of my truck has to submit a truck roster and proof he was charging the correct rates on everything.

 

So your argument for tyrannical rules is the tyrannical rules that we dont have anymore? You wanna live in free country or one you're told how many hours the government is going to allow you to work? No I dont agree with HOS, I'm also sane enough to realize they only they'll change is getting worse, because that's just what happens when government gets involved in ####.

 

No, I was saying that most of the people whining about hours of service and ELD’s have no idea how it used to be, and if it were still like that they probably wouldn’t even own a truck right now.

Everyone had a chance to comment about revising the split sleeper and making it so a break of 3 hours stops the 14, yet less than 4000 drivers took the time to comment. And even less of that number actually typed coherent thought dealing with the matter at hand. Most were saying get rid of the ELD because they can’t make money. When that small of a number makes an effort that says to me that most don’t care.

So like I said, gather your thoughts and supporting data as to how this industry will be better off if it were a free for all and start your activism group. Get people on your side and go from there. Until then, you’re just whining about rules that you were fully aware of when you decided to play with big trucks.

 

I think it's more accurate to take out the electronic part and just say the government will monitor you 24 hours a day.

Yes it is a choice to be in this industry but you pretty much are monitored twenty-four hours a day.

Your hours are monitored of course. If you get a ticket or accident in your own private vehicle that is monitored. And of course there is the drug testing.

I mentioned the drug-testing however anyone feels about it, because your employer can call you on your day off and require you to go in for a drug test and if you do not I assume you lose your job.

That's pretty much 24 hour a day being monitored.