Actually once you start split breaking the only thing that can restart your 11/14 is 10 hours off duty or in the sleeper (in a row, not combined).
Split Break question
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by leannamarie, Jun 17, 2009.
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sorry LM, i think we are making it worse. LOL
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The 8 hr brk stops the 14 hr clock and moves your work day forward. The 2 hour break does nothing without the 8 hr sleeper brk. the two together make a 10 hr brk and restart your 11/14 clock at the end of the 1ST break and you have to count all driving and onduty time between the breaks as part of the new 11/14 hr clock
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Split breaking is for the use of a driver having to wait an overly long period of time at a shipper, or in the event of exhaustion to get a break without losing driving time. While it isn't a thing the average driver prefers to do, it is something that is recognized as occasionally necassary when past the wannabe status.
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Now just hold on there...
I know what split breaking is for and I passed the "wannabe" status quite a few miles back. (I have "wannabe" as my status on here because I'll never be the driver my Dad is...47 years OTR and still going)
What I mean is this...the DOT made a few changes to the rules of split breaking back in 2005 or 2006 and it got most of the team drivers out there in an uproar. It used to be that you could split the break any way you wanted...now its 8 and 2.
I'm no expert on it but I have used it a few times (only when absolutely necessary)...and I have had it explained to me by somebody who is an expert on DOT regulations because its his job to defend drivers in court. -
Don't beleive me? Fine check it out for yourself.
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/topics/hos/hos-logbook-examples.htm
Read THE ENTIRE thing and follow along and it will make sense. If you try to skim through it you will be all cofused. -
The examples are really good in that link. You can download a PDF file of it and save it on your laptop for later reference.
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Its too late in my day to read all that...but it seems the rules have changed since 2006 (possibly because of all the team drivers that the 2006 changes screwed over)
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This is just so frustrating. No matter how many times I read it, I am still confused. Worse yet, I think I understand it, only to discover that I really don't. I just don't understand why I can't get this.
I do know that the break has to be 8 and 2, at least, and that the 8 must be in the sleeper but the 2 can be anywhere.
And I do know that every dimwitted load planner should be forced to prove their competency in math, like that it is impossible to legally drive 725 miles in 11 hours in a 62 mph truck.
FMCSA makes things so darn confusing that it is just easier to flat out cheat than try to figure a way of doing it legally.
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There would be a 11 hour driving violation.
Even with the 4.25 hours off from 7:00 to 11:15 & the 8 hours in the bunk making for a reset, the reset clock starts at the end of the first break.
His reset clock would start at 11:15 of day one. From that time on he'll accumulate 12 driving hours.
His 14 hour clock would run from 11:15 to 19:15... not count for the 8 hours in the bunk....& include 3:15 till 8:15 of day two for a total of 12 hours on the 14 hour clock.
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