HOS Question

BDS0111 · Jul 12, 2009

So, for giggles tell me if this would be legal: On Duty status clearly starts in Cincinnati, but the rider (non CDL Driver) drives the truck from Cincinnati to Peoria which should be legal because it is under 26,001 GVWR. Let's say that takes 5 hours, the CDL driver logs the time as on duty and then takes over when they hook to the trailer. He then will have 9 hours of drive time available, correct? Could this work?

This could effectively allow them to gain an hour of drive time which might in a perfect world allow the drive to be completed in one 14 hour duty cycle. But the driver's math is nuts, he says he'll average 70 mph. I say he is crazy and he'll average 55 which is what I use to average all of my runs. He's nuts...It is still going to be a two day drive...

notarps4me · Jul 12, 2009

BDS0111 said: ↑

So, for giggles tell me if this would be legal: On Duty status clearly starts in Cincinnati, but the rider (non CDL Driver) drives the truck from Cincinnati to Peoria which should be legal because it is under 26,001 GVWR. Let's say that takes 5 hours, the CDL driver logs the time as on duty and then takes over when they hook to the trailer. He then will have 9 hours of drive time available, correct? Could this work?

This could effectively allow them to gain an hour of drive time which might in a perfect world allow the drive to be completed in one 14 hour duty cycle. But the driver's math is nuts, he says he'll average 70 mph. I say he is crazy and he'll average 55 which is what I use to average all of my runs. He's nuts...It is still going to be a two day drive...
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You by any chance related to bill clinton??

dancnoone · Jul 12, 2009

BDS0111 said: ↑

So, for giggles tell me if this would be legal: On Duty status clearly starts in Cincinnati, but the rider (non CDL Driver) drives the truck from Cincinnati to Peoria which should be legal because it is under 26,001 GVWR. Let's say that takes 5 hours, the CDL driver logs the time as on duty and then takes over when they hook to the trailer. He then will have 9 hours of drive time available, correct? Could this work?

This could effectively allow them to gain an hour of drive time which might in a perfect world allow the drive to be completed in one 14 hour duty cycle. But the driver's math is nuts, he says he'll average 70 mph. I say he is crazy and he'll average 55 which is what I use to average all of my runs. He's nuts...It is still going to be a two day drive...
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PC Miler say 12:38 with NO stops between points. If they can do the trailer swap and get fueled quickly enough. They might make it.

truckinwva · Jul 13, 2009

On duty in cinci. That's where he starts working.

Truckinwva

Mike_MD · Jul 14, 2009

BDS0111 said: ↑

Hello! Question about HOS... A friend of mine just asked me if I could advise him if a run he is sending a driver on will be legal...

This is what he wants to do: The driver is a "contractor" driving a company furnished vehicle. The driver will depart Louisville in his personal vehicle and drive to Cincinnati. In Cincinnati he will park his vehicle and jump in a company owned F350 pickup and drive to Peoria, IL. In Peoria the driver will hook up at 22' fifth wheel trailer which will put his combination well above 10,000 GVWR. After grabbing the trailer he will head to Sioux Falls, SD. The question is when does the driver come on duty??
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On-duty once the driver leaves Louisville:

Question 11: Must non transportation-related work for a motor carrier be recorded as on-duty time?

Guidance: Yes. All work for a motor carrier, whether compensated or not, must be recorded as on-duty time. The term work as used in the definition of on-duty time in §395.2 of the FMCSRs is not limited to driving or other non transportation-related employment.

Question 13: What is the duty status of a co-driver (truck)who is riding seated next to the driver?

Guidance: On-duty (not driving).

Question 24: If a driver is transported by automobile from the point of a breakdown to a terminal, and then dispatched on another run, how is the time spent in the automobile entered on the record of duty status? How is the time entered if the driver goes off-duty once he reaches the terminal?

Guidance: The time spent in the automobile would be on-duty (not driving) if dispatched on another run once he/she reaches the terminal, and off-duty if he/she is given 8 consecutive hours off-duty upon reaching the terminal.
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BDS0111 said:

The driver claims that he doesn't come on duty until he hooks the trailer up in Peoria. I believe he comes on in Cincinnati. There will also be a rider in the truck... The driver claims that if the rider drives the truck when the trailer is not hooked up to Peoria that he will still be off duty. I say that because there is no sleeper that the driver will still be on duty sitting in the passenger seat.
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Doesn't know what the rules requires.

BDS0111 · Jul 15, 2009

Thanks for all of the input guys. It pretty much confirmed what I knew to be true! Much appreciated!!

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