320" wheelbase ?

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  1. bull hauler

    bull hauler Medium Load Member

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    Glad i threw this out for opinions, if i move forward id have to shorten it and i dont know if i want to monkey with it maybe ill try and jew him down some more to make up for a 3k chop
     
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  3. that65

    that65 Light Load Member

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    You might try it and see, you might like it, mines so long if I didn't have the third axle it would probably look stupid, lol, one guy here thought his was a true limo, I pulled up to him one early morning, his back drives are were my front drives are, lol, I don't think he even looked.....and I have a second frame front to back, it's one heavy #####, 23,200 something with 280 gallons of fuel, w900l, I'm going to #### can the frame rails and rebuild it to 305 to 315 something..... not sure, its all bowed real bad and rusted out from the sleeper back
     
  4. bigguns

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    I was hoping Flighline would chime in. His truck appears to be long in his avatar. I forgot to mention additional weight with a longer wheelbase. Your mechanic's price of 3 grand seems high because moving the tandems forward would be mostly labor. It might not be high with many shops at $100 per hour. Was this truck stretched or was it originally 320". If it was stretched, was it done properly? I saw a long Pete a while back that someone screwed it up big time. The frame wasn't doubled and it was sectioned with vertical butt joints as opposed to being angled like the end of a frame. Did it ever sag! Keep us updated.
     
  5. bigguns

    bigguns Road Train Member

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    I get 'invalid attachment' frequently when I click on a picture attachment someone has posted. Can anyone tell me how to open them? I tried bull hauler's attachment and could not open it. Thanks
     
  6. Flightline

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    OK, I'll chime in but not sure how much my opinion is worth as I'm quite different breed.
    The longer wheel base isn't what adds much weight but a double frame, bigger sleeper, full fridge, big generator, water tanks, ect. is what adds the extra weight. I've seen alot of long wheel base trucks that don't have the all the extras or the big sleeper so they wouldn't be alot heavier.
    Just moving the tandems forward is alot of work with drilling all the holes, not to mention leaving so many open holes in the wrong places. Not sure I'd consider buying a truck to cut down. I think it would be a disaster.
    Otherwise, the longer sleeper makes life on the road totally different. Not sure I could ever go back to a regular truck.
    No if a guy was having to scale out constantly and or paid by the weight, it could be a headache on a regular basis.
     
  7. bull hauler

    bull hauler Medium Load Member

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    It was not factory it was stretched, the frame was v cut, welded then 1/2 spacer plate and frame drilled. I dont think either id want to move up the rears either if it was a little off or something thatd be a mess
    ok so one other thing,..by dot regs how long before oversize??
     
  8. Flightline

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    Total lenght depends on the trailer lenght. If you pull a 48' or less, your limited to 105' in almost all states. Over 48' trailer, your limited in about half dozen states to 75' like Florida, Indiana, Va.. So you would be over lenght in those states with a 51' trailer. I pulled a 53' for over a year before getting nailed in Florida. Indiana hasn't inforced that law in years.
    Also Canada will not allow you in even bobtailing.
    So how long is most bull wagon's?
     
  9. SmokinCAT

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    Don't know anyone that runs less than a 51' bull rack, only shorter length livestock trailers I see are pig specific.
     
  10. bigguns

    bigguns Road Train Member

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    I wish I could quote numbers but I can't. I do know that I would not want to be tasked with carrying the added length of drive shaft,the added outside rails,and the inner rails to double up the frame. My KW has a drive shaft with a .27 inch thick wall. What I am trying to say is that a little here and a little there all adds up if you get paid by weight. Look in the front of a high $ atlas for length laws. Don't quote me but the law on the interstate can be different from the state highways and side roads.
     
  11. bull hauler

    bull hauler Medium Load Member

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    i pull a 53' rack, sooo yeah i don't even want to mess with this truck too much screwing around, the guy who has it doesnt even truck, he owns a machine shop and hauls a couple loads a month with it for his own business, he bought it to just trick out a pete...imo he ruined a sharp truck in the fact that its not set up for actual trucking, scaling out several times a week and getting in and out of tight places. now if he would have not went overboard and just stretched it to 290-300 tops it probably be hooked up to the trailer already.

    attached a pic of it
     

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