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34 Hour Reset Question?????

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by JohnBoy, Aug 8, 2009.

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  1. Aug 19, 2009 #31
    Allow Me.

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    Here's some friendly advice re: logging. Your safety dept/DOT cops/insurance carriers know and are well aware that everyday is different in this industry. I'm referring to loading/unloading/fueling/weather conditions/road conditions/shop time/driver fatigue/hot loads etc. It is foolish to log yourself identical every day, such as 15 minutes to load or fuel or 600 miles divided by 68 mph to reach an average. You want to be able to pass an audit (side of the highway or in house) as well as post-accident if that happens. My point being, vary your logging, assuming you're running legal. Throw in a 30 minute fuel stop once in a while, or a hour and a half load time or a 53 mph average instead of always the same.

    Any accident involving a CMV will bring out the cops/lawyers who will want to hang the driver from the nearest oak tree, no questions asked. If you roll that truck and are hanging upside down from your seatbelt barely alive, the first cop on the scene will ask for your log book before he calls for an ambulance. Don't let yourself get into that position. Your dispatcher will not defend you, period. CYA. :O_o_1PIRATES33:
     
    Allow Me., Aug 19, 2009
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    notarps4me, FriedTater and Panhandle flash Thank this.
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  3. Aug 21, 2009 #32
    FriedTater

    FriedTater Keeper of The Snakes

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    One day I may be half as good as you portray yourself to be.You get away with blowing smoke up forum groupies chimneys,but the other side of the fence knows what we see.:biggrin_25524::biggrin_25514:

    Like several have said via PM's (well I really cant post what was said)
    CHP spent 45 min shifting thru my books one day at the Temecula CA shack,their well know for being "stupid":biggrin_25513:
    This Dip ##### has paid one Log book citation in 28+ years,which was back 1990 while off duty.:biggrin_25521:

     
    FriedTater, Aug 21, 2009
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  4. Aug 21, 2009 #33
    notarps4me

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    Driver I don't give a flip how you log it. You can do it that way for years and never have a problem. Just takes one accident and a lawyer to do everything in their power to remove everything you own. I said what I did to give drivers a thought of what lawyers will do to establish falsification on the books. Makes no difference to me if you lose everything or not.
     
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  5. Aug 21, 2009 #34
    notarps4me

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    You are talking DOT / scale house. I am talking court room establishing you are guilty when you did not cause the accident, but will be charged for it...
     
    notarps4me, Aug 21, 2009
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  7. Aug 22, 2009 #35
    notarps4me

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    So? Am I suppose to lose sleep because some of your friends PMed you about me? For the record I have gotten PM's about you in the past. Doesn't matter to me either way. I offer advice on how to keep from getting in trouble in court and you offer advise on how to vandalize trucks in a truck stop and you say I am blowing smoke... class real class there driver...:biggrin_25512:
     
    notarps4me, Aug 22, 2009
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  8. Aug 22, 2009 #36
    48Packard

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    I'm in the midst of a 34 right now. I'll spend a good portion of today in the sleeper, but will take several breaks to go eat, walk, just get out.

    As in the past, I've logged "an hour here and an hour there" out of the sleeper, which is accurate. I logged an hour this morning when I went in for breakfast, and will do so a while from now.

    Never had a problem either with company or DOT.
     
    48Packard, Aug 22, 2009
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  9. Aug 22, 2009 #37
    Texas-Nana

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    I log it like I do it. If I'm in the sleeper then I log it, if I get out and go to the cafe, I'm off duty. Just seems simple to me: log it like you do it.
     
    Texas-Nana, Aug 22, 2009
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  10. Aug 22, 2009 #38
    Allow Me.

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    How do UPS/ABF and various other day cab, OTR drivers log their drivers seat, pillow propped against the window, rest area brake that you see them doing? Certainly not line 2,right? :smt017
     
    Allow Me., Aug 22, 2009
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  11. Aug 22, 2009 #39
    Roadmedic

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    It cannot be logged as off duty either.

    Any time spent in the driving compartment is on duty.
     
    Roadmedic, Aug 22, 2009
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  12. Aug 23, 2009 #40
    FriedTater

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    Nope !

    It would be cute to know where you got the idea from?

    :biggrin_2558:
     
    FriedTater, Aug 23, 2009
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