34 Hour Reset Question?????

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by JohnBoy, Aug 8, 2009.

  1. 07-379Pete

    07-379Pete Crusty Commando-Pete

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    When in a motel its off duty, you may be asked to show a receipt from the motel. If in a truck stop its best to show both sleeper birth and off duty while takin a 34. Its a simple rule dont try to complete it.
     
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  3. Okieron

    Okieron Crusty Okie

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    you can have both at a truckstop as most people can't sleep for 34 hrs at a time
     
  4. Scalemaster

    Scalemaster Heavy Load Member

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    As long as you stay above line 3, you can go back and forth between lines 1 and 2 all you want.

    Line 2 is Off-duty in the sleeper. Line 1 is Off-duty everywhere else.
     
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  5. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    And to be really legal, don't make any entries in your log from the time you start your 34 off until you finish your 34 off, because picking up your log book to make an entry from line 1 to 2 or vice-versa means you just went on duty and negated the straight 34 off. It won't make a difference as long as you don't have an "incident" while parked and have to prove anything later on.
     
  6. lostNfound

    lostNfound Road Train Member

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    Just tell 'em you went on a bender and were passed out the entire time.














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  7. lostNfound

    lostNfound Road Train Member

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    I think you're picking nits that don't exist.
    Similar circumstance.
     
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  8. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    It all pertains to being "off duty". You can do anything you want when "off duty". You do not have to sleep or "rest". You can hit all the bars, chase all the women, eat steak, see the sights, tell truck driver lies, whatever......Just can't do anything truck related. (legally)
     
  9. lostNfound

    lostNfound Road Train Member

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    Sure you can; drive the truck, take phone calls and fill out log pages... all off-duty.
     
  10. Yatista

    Yatista Medium Load Member

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    I guess we always need to complicate simple things. How about this scenario? You are not require by the carrier to complete the the log book, you are required by the federal government to complete it. Since the federal government doesn't pay you to complete the log book you are not working for wages while you are doing the log. I do believe that the only work you have to log, is work at the direction of the carrier and other work for wages, so no change of duty to "on duty not driving" occurs. All is well in the world.

    Drive Safe
     
  11. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Consider the original "intent" when the Federal boys implemented the log book back in the '30's. Today, there are grey areas. Subject to interpretation. Here's one I find amusing; you can drive a CMV while off duty to the restaurant or hotel or store, right ? So, when driving this CMV while off duty, does that mean you are exempt from doing a pre-trip ? And if you do a pre-trip, you certainly are on line 4, right ? But wait a second, you're on a 34 re-set, driving a CMV to the motel, which is legal and doing a pre-trip while "off duty", which should be line 4, which would negate your 34 off, dang, I'm confused !
     
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