4900ex Rough ride

Discussion in 'Western Star Forum' started by Jurgstransport, Dec 4, 2017.

  1. Jurgstransport

    Jurgstransport Bobtail Member

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    Got an 07 4900 that used to ride like a Cadillac. Last winter I started noticing smaller bumps getting bigger. Now when I see a decent bump in the road I cringe, which seems to be every 5-10 seconds. I've had all 3 axles gone through and ride height checked on steer, drives and cab. Replaced all 10 shocks, worn airbags replaced, spring bushings replaced, leveling valves replaced. Replaced steer tires. Drive tires are still in good shape minus a minor cup on one. The roughness travels throughout the entire truck, but I can time the bumps and am certain it's coming from both drive axles. The bumps are jarring almost to the point of my drinks in my cup holder ending up on my dash. Rough roads are completely unbearable and rattle the whole truck apart. I have been having other issues with leaks, wiring issues and loose/broken bolts and parts due to how bad the ride is as well. Anyone else experience this and find the solution?
     
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  3. boneebone

    boneebone Road Train Member

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    Did you check or replace front cab mount bushings or rear cab shocks/air spring?

    Worn cab mount bushings will give your cab a rough and noisy ride when they are worn out.

    Your trucks is 10 years old, I'm positive that's one of the issues that will solve your problem.
     
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  4. Jurgstransport

    Jurgstransport Bobtail Member

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    I have visually checked the front cab mounts and used a long pipe to try to lift on front of cab to check for movement. The air springs were replaced about 2 years ago when one failed. When I can see a bump in the road I can feel the front end softly hit the bump, then feel the drive axles practically slam into it like the bump grew 10 times larger after the steer axle hit it. I would think if it was the front cab mounts I would be feeling the same with the front suspension also.
     
  5. baha

    baha Road Train Member

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    You may need to replace the air ride valve that controls the ride hi on bunk air bags if it cant flow its like you are feeling on ride inside truck?
     
  6. boneebone

    boneebone Road Train Member

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    I'm sure your front cab bushings are toast anyways, as far as the rear suspension goes, like baha said, your air bags could be overinflated causing a harsher ride.

    You need to remember that all the parts work in conjunction with one another, if one part is worn out, it's going to put the added stress and harshness somewhere else.
     
  7. Jurgstransport

    Jurgstransport Bobtail Member

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    Ok, one thing I have noticed is that the rear suspension height control valve seems to release air very slowly to lower the suspension back down compared to when it raises. I can come to a stop,set the brakes, turn the truck off and do whatever for a minute or two, and by time I get out of the truck I can usually still hear it lowering the suspension a little. But it does stop after a few minutes. Valve has been replaced once already, but maybe it's the wrong part or faulty part out of the box? I do know some valves tend to dump air faster than others. I don't believe the valve for the cab suspension to be bad. I can manually operate it and see that it is functioning flawlessly and very responsive. I will have the shop back home take a look at the cab mount bushings when I get back there next, but they honestly don't look very aged. Could have been replaced before I bought the truck.
     
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  8. Jurgstransport

    Jurgstransport Bobtail Member

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    Update.. cab mounts have been inspected again and confirmed to be in good shape. Drive axle bushings have been inspected and are good. Torsion bars on both axles each had a bushing that was rotting so I replaced them. All airbags are within 2 years old and appear to be in good shape.
    What boggles my mind now is that I made a run from Wisconsin to Florida last week and it all of a sudden rode like a dream the whole way to Florida. Unloaded, reloaded and started heading back to Wisconsin. About time I got to Atlanta it started riding rough again. So now I know it's not just my imagination thinking it's riding rough. But I can't for the life of me figure out what would cause it to ride fine for a while and then act up again. I didn't move the 5th wheel position or anything either, so that's not it.
     
  9. Jurgstransport

    Jurgstransport Bobtail Member

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    Also, control valve has been replaced. No change.
     
  10. hsm2003

    hsm2003 Bobtail Member

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    hi! were you able to fix the problem? I have a 2007 western star and I'm having the same exact issues.
     
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