8-2 split

That is the reason most drivers don't use that provision. Too confusing like you said. If I need a nape, which happens pretty often, I take an hour or maybe 1 1/2 hours instead of 1/2 hour and stay within the 14, no problems then.

 

Not exactly correct. The 8 hour sleeper part does not count against your 14, it extends it by 8 hours (or however long you are in the sleeper for, up to but not including 10 hours because 10 hours of sleeper berth time would count as a full 10 hour break.) You did say it stops the clock but also stated that it counts against the 14 which is kind of contradictory. The 2 hour break does count against your 14, at least until combined with the next following 8 hour break at which point it obviously falls off your hours. Any questions about the 8/2 feel free to PM me, I've used this alot when running NE regional and spent alot of time talking to DOT, researching on the FMCSA's website and even had a few e-mails to the kindly folks there to get questions answered. All of which means I know more then enough to confuse even the people who wrote the rules let alone myself and other drivers.

 

Yeah, you're right. I meant to say "doesn't" count. Thanks for the correction.

 

Yeah and I work with a company as an O/O that won't allow us to do the 8/2 split because they have given me this excuse that some guys managed to screw up the QComm in doing so.
Now how on earth can you screw up on a fricking QComm ?? When it's all done for you. 8/2.. 34 hr reset...yada yada.
Youve got to pretty dumb to mess up. But that's the corporate world for you.

 

Question. If you are an O/O how can they tell you not to us the 8/2 split?

 

Probably an agreement that since hes leased to them, he is bound by their rules for hos...

Tmc allows us to use the 8/2 split if we want. They advise against it, but we can if we like.

 

Ok thanks. I've always hear O/O refer to being their own boss, and the freedom of being an O/O. Maybe not so much.

 

So when you take the second break, do you also get the portion of your 14 back that you used before the first break? (in addition to your drive time?).

For example, if I started with a fresh 14/11, drove 5.5 hours, spent 2.5 hours getting loaded, then logged 8 hrs sleeper, then drove 5 hours, then took a two hour break -- would I have 5.5 hrs driving and 8 hrs of my 14 available after the 2 hr break?

In the past, ive only used the front half of split sleeper (8 SB) to pause my 14, then finished out my 11/14 then followed that with a full 10 hr break. I never used the 2nd break, so I'm not exactly sure how that works.

 

if you drive 9 hours take a 8 hour you can drive 2 more hours then you must take either 2 hours sleeper, or a 10 hour. If you take the 2 hours you can only drive 9 hours before you must wither do a 2 hour or a 10 hours. until you do a 10 hour you have to subtract your last drive period from 11 allowable ( or your available witch ever is less). This is not about on duty time since there is no restriction on on duty time.

 

You almost have it. The 8-hour sleeper period never counts against your 14, but the 2-hour off duty (either off duty or sleeper) always counts against your 14. Neither of these breaks has to be exactly 2 or 8 hours; they're a minimum, so you can run over and the split is still legal.

The different answers always arise because the rule is rather complex. It's very useful once you get comfortable applying it.