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Anne Ferro doublespeak

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by windsmith, Mar 17, 2013.

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  1. Mar 17, 2013 #1
    windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    In her March 14, 2013 testimony before the House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, Anne Ferro admits that the HOS rules have no bearing on safety.

    On the one hand, Anne Ferro says:
    Yet, on the other hand, and in almost the same breath, she goes on to request that states take 'immediate action' to provide "regulatory relief" in the form of HOS exemption in the case of agricultural operations:

    So, Anne, which is it - Are fatalities acceptable if they occur as a result of a fatigued driver causing a crash while transporting agricultural commodities and farm supplies, or is the real truth that the HOS regulations have no real effect when it comes to transportation safety?

    I'm waiting for your answer to this question, Anne.
     
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  3. Mar 17, 2013 #2
    aiwiron

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    Politician double talk, it was not about safety a long time ago.

    Revenue enhancement
     
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    Hardlyevr

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    The precious life comment has also been heard when talking about gun control, but somehow never mentioned related to abortion funding!

    I have long wondered about HOS exemptions, the new ones for Agriculture, and the ones temporarily granted for emergencies, natural disasters, etc. The amazing thing I have NEVER heard is reporting of terrible wrecks or fatalities while these HOS exemptions were in place. So there can only be a few possible reasons for this. Either the rules are too restrictive now, and waving them doesn't make a difference, or the rules really have nothing to do with actual safety. Or perhaps the drivers in those situations are really super human and invincible. My guess is the last choice, if you ask the drivers!
     
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  5. Mar 17, 2013 #4
    windsmith

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    I often wonder if the stress and strain of having to comply with the HOS regulations and still make the delivery appointment or risk financial loss actually contributes to UNsafe operation. I'd like to see a study done on THAT.
     
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    aiwiron

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    Ask anyone when they pull FEMA loads, I have and once that sign is in your window not many can stop you or detain you for hours of service, you are exempt with caution to still being liable for accidents.
     
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    windsmith

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    What gets me is local drivers being subject to the same hours of service as OTR.

    Drive 14 all night, then be expected to be back 10 hours later. During those 10 hours you (I) have to drive an hour home, make meal, shower, try to sleep during the day, and drive an hour back to work later. Really only leaves about six hours to sleep, assuming you can fall right asleep.

    Then find yourself dozing off about midnight in the middle of the route, but you can't sleep cause the route is balls to the wall.
     
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  10. Mar 17, 2013 #8
    stranger

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    You should have worked local and linehaul when it was only 8 hours off duty, with no 14 hour limit. If you shuttled trailer between hubs, and sat a few hours waiting a couple times, it was easy to have 16-18 hours or more from the time you left. If you ended up at another terminal in a motel, they were usually on the phone around 7 hours waking you up to make sure you would be ready to punch back in when your 8 was up. That was why I quit that job.
     
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    I figured it had to do with job security. As long as there are any traffic fatalities, the job isn't done. Reminds me a bit of any other war being waged on behalf of the 'public'.

    The ag exemption was fought over last year. Any emergency involving relaxed rules is also brought up, like Super Storm Sandy
     
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    peterd

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    The same could be said for those companies where you are at home waiting for a load all day than get 1 at 8 or 9 at night and then expected to deliver 1st in the morning.When you balk at this they say '' well you were off all day you should be well rested''
     
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