Not that I've been able to do that every time, but yeah, I've been able to do that with Super-Bs. It makes ya feel good when you get it in the first time.![]()
Backing Doubles
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Injun, Mar 28, 2011.
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I pulled doubles sometimes, now that guy sounds cool you are talking about and I have tried with minor success here and there not very far though. I did know a driver who worked at the same temp agency as me running nightly shuttles for Coremark, we brought two empties in and brought 2 loaded out. Every night he would drop his empty back trailer in the dock from backing up doubles, pull out his dolly and front trailer, back up the dolly to his next loaded light rear trailer while it was still hooked to front empty trailer (usually u dc it and back it with tractor or push it). 2 very difficult moves each night. Did this every night really slowly, but thing was he would hit that dock/trailer perfectly. I used to pester old Phelps on how slow he did it while I was already hooking up to my loaded set getting in and out of my truck allot. He had skill though.
There is a video of a driver doing 45 degree backs with doubles somewhere I swear I have seen it. Had a job moving some seismic tester rigs with housing trailers connected, each axle under the housing trailer turned its own way with no way to lock em. I got a job once moving 6 of em that were nosed into a warehouse brought over from Mexico going to Houston port and back to France once. Took us over 12 hours to back em all out and turn around. Think the Mexico drivers were pissed and nosed into the wall of the warehouse next to each other tight on purpose.Injun Thanks this. -
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I only ever had to do it when I or someone else screwed up. Once with a set of bottom dumps on a jobsite where the truck ahead of me came in the wrong way and ended up facing me with no way to get around him. Had to blindside 90 degrees back onto the street to let him out. Another time with a set of hoppers when I got sent down a path with no way out at a Blue Diamond facility in Salida. Had to back strait out about 200'' next to a wall I couldn't get away from. Real hard to make corrections with that #### wall 3 feet away. I'm glad I don't pull those #### things any more.
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You can do it, but i find that it's just a quick to break the set down and rebuild it.
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Some tight quarters in that place!
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Doesnt work that way with MI gravel trains. Dolly and second wagon are pretty much permenatly attached.
My brother ran gravel trains for over 10 years and could put the things anywhere you wanted after backing it through some housing sub-division. Sat and laughed my butt off watching him back a 53' van into a dock after all those years of pulling a train.Strider, Injun and Flying Dutchman Thank this. -
try hauling gas with a set of b-trains and have to back them into the gas station to deliver
b trains are not that hard to back up with some practice, a trains are another story though, I hauled them many years ago, I got really good at backing the lead trailer with the dolly on it, but I have never seen anyone back up a complete set. -
Backing A doubles is hard but there are a few tricks to it.
This is how it was taught to me and I can do it so here goes..
Backing a lead and dolly into a kite is the first step. You wanna set up slightly to the sight side and understand the dolly goes about 5 times faster than the trailer. Go real slow and keep the steering movements fast..
When backing a set a few pointers..
Two loads always back easier than one and one or two empties - being heavy on one side will make it harder though..
Backing down a slight grade makes it much easier..
Not sure how to explain this but I'll try - keep the center of the dolly's 5'th wheel dead center with the kingpin of the kite so you're pushing the back box instead of turning into a pretzel. Basically, steer the dolly with the lead while pushing the back box - when the back box and dolly start going in different directions stop and pull up.
Push the back box with the dolly - if you can't back a lead and dolly under a kite it won't happen but once you can it's worth playing with..Strider, Injun and Paddington Thank this. -
You can practice this by pushing a length of string on your kitchen table.
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