Booted From Training

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by terryg247, Aug 20, 2015.

  1. PowerBstrd

    PowerBstrd Light Load Member

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    A failed drug test is a failed drug test.

    Now he's got about ten years to think about what he did.
     
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  3. terryg247

    terryg247 Light Load Member

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    I asked someone at the company what would happen if the person applies for a job somewhere else and he believes that where ever he goes he will have to check the box stating he failed a drug test at a previous company however there are a number of companies around who will not even ask
     
  4. G.Anthony

    G.Anthony Road Train Member

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    even if he tries to hide the drug test failure, it shows up in a DAC report.
     
  5. terryg247

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    not sure if there is DAC reports North Of The Border
     
  6. not4hire

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    No, there isn't. There is, or was, a similar service being run out of Alberta on a national basis, but they got shut down, or had their business severely curtailed due to lawsuits/government intervention. I can't think of the name right now, but if I do later I will post up some information about it. They were out of Chestermere IIRC.

    Our protections for drivers and the dissemination of their information are a little stronger up here.

    EDIT: Found it: Professional Drivers Bureau Inc.
     
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  7. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    Here is more...

    Release of truck driver’s work history violated privacy laws, watchdog says

    A Calgary-area company violated the province’s privacy law by collecting and selling a truck driver’s work history — including drug test results and the reasons she was fired from jobs — to prospective employers without her consent.

    Professional Drivers Bureau of Canada Inc. was ordered recently by Alberta’s privacy watchdog to expunge all the records it collected on the unidentified woman who complained about the firm’s practices after being unable to secure new work.

    But the Teamsters union is now calling on the Office of the Information and Privacy Commissioner to investigate further and determine whether the Chestermere company has the proper permissions for the database it claims to have compiled on 160,000 other truck drivers across the country.

    “I’m completely flabbergasted and can’t believe this organization actually exists,” said Richard Eichel, principal officer with Local 362, which represents more than 6,000 workers around Alberta who drive trucks.

    “This is much bigger than one driver and the province needs to step in now and ensure personal information isn’t being peddled without permission,” Eichel said.

    Owner Neil Melgaard said he founded the drivers bureau in 1997 after finding applicants for truck driving positions frequently failed to disclose previous accidents and terminations on their job applications.

    Melgaard said he now has more than 200 firms — including trucking giants such as Trimac Transportation and H and R Transport Ltd. — that pay $29.75 to his company to screen a potential hire and who get a credit of $5.50 every time they fill out an online form about those who leave their employ.

    As well as identifiers such as names, birth dates and licence numbers, the database includes what equipment drivers have operated, which routes they have driven and how they have performed on the job.

    Traffic tickets, accidents and the reason for their employment termination are also on file, along with results of drug screening tests.

    While he doesn’t verify the information, Melgaard said he’s had only two instances in 16 years in which a carrier submitted inaccurate information.

    “We’re still in a free world,” he said. “If an employer doesn’t like someone, he has the right to say he wouldn’t rehire him and why.”

    In the case that ended up before the privacy commissioner recently, five prospective employers had accessed the woman’s work history.

    Melgaard said the report had information from about 20 former employers across the country and included mentions of the driver’s disputes with dispatchers and managers, plus an alleged incident in which she forced a family’s car into the ditch because she feared she was being followed.

    “She was Canada’s worst truck driver,” he said. “She created this problem herself, but she’s mad at me because I made it difficult for her to lie on her job applications.”

    Eichel said he’s worried the database could be used by employers to exact revenge on former employees who are trouble makers or union organizers.

    “If, in the interest of public safety, we’re going to collect more information than we already do on the records of professional drivers, then I would prefer it was done by government so it can be strictly controlled and certified for accuracy,” he said.

    Melgaard says the trucking firms he trades information with require their job applicants and employees to consent in writing to his company using their personal information, but it’s unclear how long that has been the case.

    The privacy commissioner’s order noted that the “release clause” supplied to the inquiry by the drivers bureau was created only last year after the woman complained.

    That clause is now also on the company’s website, along with this explanation to trucking firms: “You may wish to use on your applications that complies with the new privacy legislation.”.

    Alberta’s Personal Information Protection Act came into force in 2004. Diane McLeod-McKay, the director responsible for enforcing the legislation, questioned whether it was appropriate for a firm to be making a profit on information that may have been collected for the original purpose of managing an employer-employee relationship.

    McLeod-McKay refused to say whether she has begun a wider probe into the drivers bureau, but she did note that Alberta legislation allows a person to withdraw consent for the use of their personal information.

    mmcclure@calgaryherald.com

    http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/a...privacy+laws+watchdog+says/8422502/story.html
     
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  8. Spreadneck

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    Gods have no place in our government. I don't want someone who talks to imaginary beings making decisions for our country.
     
  9. Dreamboat

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    God is definitely present in my life, but I also believe he should not be involved in government. My relationship with God is personal. It has no place anywhere but in my mind.
     
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  10. RetiredUSN

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    I believe that the word "god" was frequently used by the founding fathers to let the king know that he wasn't the the supreme being when it came down to the affairs of the colonies. Individual rights, and fair representation of government was like a huge slap to the face of the king. Later on, the word god was intentionally left out of the constitution to prevent the states and it's people from entering just another union with a system of Vatican ruled Monarchy, and it's track record of hypocrisy.

    It was a wise choice in my opinion.
     
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  11. aussiejosh

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    That is rather harsh he could of tossed the habit as well how long have companies been doing hair folical tests sounds kind of over the top the other option was for the student to be up front about it and just of told the company that he'd used drugs but it was a few months ago they would appreciate his honesty and perhaps give him a chance.
     
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